I'm a single undead gal trying to make it in the big city. I have to start somewhere and they're evil here. They don't judge. They've got necro-tempered glass. No burning up. A great medical plan, and who needs dental more than us?

Harmony ,'Conviction (1)'


Natter 70: Hookers and Blow  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


le nubian - Jun 28, 2012 5:25:46 am PDT #11671 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

On my twitter feed they said the vote was 6-3


Sparky1 - Jun 28, 2012 5:26:21 am PDT #11672 of 30001
Librarian Warlord

Here's why it is confusing: The Court holds that the mandate violates the Commerce Clause, but that doesn't matter b/c there are five votes for the mandate to be constitutional under the taxing power.


Sparky1 - Jun 28, 2012 5:26:43 am PDT #11673 of 30001
Librarian Warlord

6-3 might be another vote on a different question (there were four).


le nubian - Jun 28, 2012 5:28:36 am PDT #11674 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

subtleties and nuance will not penetrate my brain today


Sparky1 - Jun 28, 2012 5:29:11 am PDT #11675 of 30001
Librarian Warlord

Kagan, Sotomayor, Ginsberg & Breyer voted would have upheld it under the commerce clause and/or as a tax, Roberts only agreed in so far as it is a tax - so he really did save this thing by a hair.


Sparky1 - Jun 28, 2012 5:29:42 am PDT #11676 of 30001
Librarian Warlord

Again quoting: In opening his statement in dissent, Kennedy says: "In our view, the entire Act before us is invalid in its entirety."


le nubian - Jun 28, 2012 5:30:08 am PDT #11677 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

OMG Sparky.


sarameg - Jun 28, 2012 5:33:44 am PDT #11678 of 30001

I actively dislike chat. It's just not my favorite medium of communication. I'll use it with my brother sometimes, but just...no. Not my thing.


Sophia Brooks - Jun 28, 2012 5:34:35 am PDT #11679 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

>"These cats aren't going to stack themselves."

I say that too!


Sparky1 - Jun 28, 2012 5:34:41 am PDT #11680 of 30001
Librarian Warlord

Quoting: In Plain English: The Affordable Care Act, including its individual mandate that virtually all Americans buy health insurance, is constitutional. There were not five votes to uphold it on the ground that Congress could use its power to regulate commerce between the states to require everyone to buy health insurance. However, five Justices agreed that the penalty that someone must pay if he refuses to buy insurance is a kind of tax that Congress can impose using its taxing power. That is all that matters. Because the mandate survives, the Court did not need to decide what other parts of the statute were constitutional, except for a provision that required states to comply with new eligibility requirements for Medicaid or risk losing their funding. On that question, the Court held that the provision is constitutional as long as states would only lose new funds if they didn't comply with the new requirements, rather than all of their funding.