I know I'm a bad poet, but I'm a good man. All I ask is that... is that you try to see me—

William ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Natter 70: Hookers and Blow  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Cass - Jun 24, 2012 4:46:34 pm PDT #11078 of 30001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

> Also, from a selfish point of view, probability says the species we destroy include some of immense value to us.

There's a reason that the environmental stance I take when trying to convince people that it might matter is Hey, This Is Useful for You and Your Children.

It did get my sister to recycle her cans and bottles. So it's a start. I didn't even nag her. Just talked randomly (with a skosh of passive aggressiveness because it's me and that's how I sometimes roll) and it finally clicked for her.

My brother still goes off-roading in the desert and then does a ton of target practice shooting and brings in recyclable things to shoot and leave. I tried to convince him to take paper cups and fill them with sand. No go. Maybe he'll take some trash out in the future, maybe not.

Give with one hand, taketh away with the other. It's still better than if she didn't recycle.

The earth is gonna survive. It's current life that is threatened. Enough time and new, probably fascinating, things will evolve. But I'd like to think humans are sentient enough not to destroy the world that lets us live.

Like I said, feels. So many feels.


Cass - Jun 24, 2012 4:53:26 pm PDT #11079 of 30001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Jilli - perhaps an email to The Bloggess to ask her how she went/goes about it? I read her almost daily and she is exceptionally picky about what she'll advertise on her site. Hence, the Wil Wheaton coalating picture.

Oh, her site, I love. I mean there's totally advertising there and even when it's not something for me, I am so happy for her being able to do what she does and get monies from it. Because she makes me laugh.

And, to (really not) pile on Scrangie, I don't even think she does a faux glowing rec for makeup that she doesn't like. But we've got really different styles and I only really want her thoughts on nail polish. That is what is useful to me. Heck, it's my default looking for polish swatches.

Speaking of, what do we think of Go Daddy beyond occasionally skeevy ads? Because they are kinda having funny racing ads and I want to interact and give them clicks unless we hate them.


Dana - Jun 24, 2012 4:56:26 pm PDT #11080 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Personally, the sexism is enough to make me hate them plenty.


Typo Boy - Jun 24, 2012 4:57:26 pm PDT #11081 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Go daddy supported some of the really awful internet censorship bills. They backed off due to public pressure, but they are generally on the wrong side in internet fights.


Vortex - Jun 24, 2012 5:00:10 pm PDT #11082 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Made coffee and didn't put the coffee mugunder the drip, and I think that we all can agree that a receptacle is an important part of the coffee-making process.

I've done that before. The worst part is when you're confused as to why there isn't any coffee. I remember that I kept looking at the cup in my hand and the coffee maker and I couldn't figure out what the problem was until I realized that if the cup was in my hand, that the coffee couldn't have dripped into it. Then I saw the puddle on the floor.


Cass - Jun 24, 2012 5:03:56 pm PDT #11083 of 30001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Personally, the sexism is enough to make me hate them plenty.

And I hate them for that. But this is to get Danica Patrick and her infuriating bathing suits off of the homepage and get a really funny dude racer on the homepage. He's really awesome.

Go daddy supported some of the really awful internet censorship bills. They backed off due to public pressure, but they are generally on the wrong side in internet fights.

This, however, overwhelms.

I am sending them email supporting Hinchcliffe for homepage but not publicly supporting them because they are an ass. And saying pretty much that. I might rephrase the ass part.

I hate the bikini ads. But they are really kinda loyal supporters of motorsports so I'd like to not shun them entirely but get them to rethink their positions. In a "I am one person but a lot of one persons can count" way.


Jessica - Jun 24, 2012 5:17:55 pm PDT #11084 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I feel like most of the advertising I see is Adsense-delivered and has everything to do with the last thing I Googled and nothing at all to do with the site I'm visiting. But maybe people who aren't signed into Gmail in another tab are seeing site-specific ads?


Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 24, 2012 5:20:59 pm PDT #11085 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I've heard from online comic book/RPG fanboys who are offended by GoDaddy's assumption that if it shows them a hot woman stripping, they'll choose its service without factoring in price, reliability, and suitability for their needs.

They'll still watch the ads, but they aren't effective in getting them to spend any money. Perhaps that line of advertising would have better luck if applied to selling swimsuit calendars.


Cass - Jun 24, 2012 5:24:58 pm PDT #11086 of 30001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Mine is mostly adsense. Which is funny given the wacky tangents that some of my emails take. Because I go off on tangents like it's an Olympic sport. The ads are like Mad Libs. But it's cute.


amych - Jun 24, 2012 5:28:02 pm PDT #11087 of 30001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

I'd like to not shun them entirely but get them to rethink their positions. In a "I am one person but a lot of one persons can count" way.

A lot of people have tried to get them to rethink their positions - on sexism, on big-game hunting for sport, on internet censorship, on having a business model based entirely on getting you to accidentally sign up for services you don't want or need, on massive usability fails, on encouraging land-grabby speculation markets in domains, on unreliable service, on boneheaded security issues built into the core of their service design ... they really don't give a shit that you want them to rethink their positions.