Including most of Roy Orbison's and Gene Pitney's catalogs.
Pfft. Whatever, it's not like they were real musicians anyway.
Can we maybe vote on the whole murdering people issue?
Wash ,'Serenity'
Natter 69: Practically names itself.
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Jessica - Nov 17, 2011 12:09:48 pm PST #7315 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
amyth - Nov 17, 2011 12:11:31 pm PST #7316 of 30001
And none of us deserving the cruelty or the grace -- Leonard Cohen
Singers.
Allyson - Nov 17, 2011 12:14:25 pm PST #7317 of 30001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
I guess my worry is, how many dudes feel like this?
Also, take douchey musician guy: He's a scientist. What if he's in a position to decide who gets defined as scientist on panels/boards/whatever?
He doesn't even see how he's created a set of rules designed to shut women out of something that do not apply to men.
His argument was: Why aren't there any women rock musicians? And in order to "prove" his argument he created his own special definition of women, and said, "there, there aren't any."
What if he's in charge of shit?
Consuela - Nov 17, 2011 12:17:03 pm PST #7318 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
Current argument: Men cannot be friends with women they are attracted to
Wasn't that the premise of When Harry Met Sally? Or at least the issue they open the movie arguing about?
ION, I just completed wasted over two hours in order to attend a mandatory 20-minute meeting with some muckity-muck in which we learned nothing. And then sat around for 45 minutes waiting for the bus back to the office. Man, what a frelling waste of my time. And your tax dollars. Bah.
§ ita § - Nov 17, 2011 12:18:35 pm PST #7319 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
And there go half of the pop/rock songs of the '60s. Including most of Roy Orbison's and Gene Pitney's catalogs.
Roy Orbison sang a lot about being friends with women he was attracted to? Sincere question. I know about two songs of his.
Gudanov - Nov 17, 2011 12:21:00 pm PST #7320 of 30001
Coding and Sleeping
Why aren't there any women rock musicians?
Blink. Huh? This must be some no true Scottsman thing.
Strix - Nov 17, 2011 12:25:15 pm PST #7321 of 30001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger
Dude. I have guy friends who I find attractive. Not gonna ever happen, but sure!
I mean, isn't part of being friends with someone is that you find them appealing? And sometimes you can find them appealing, have a totally platonic relationship and STILL think "Yeah, I'd tap that?"
Whatevs. People are stupid. Anyone dumb enough to believe adult people can't be friends with someone who they find appealing enough to put in the "Would sleep with if circumstances were different" is lying to themselves or just has really massive lack of self-control.
I have guy friends I KNOW would sleep me with me, and vice versa. Do we flirt? Sure! It's fun! I don't say/do anything with them I wouldn't do in front of my husband; ain't anything ever gonna happen -- we're all happily narried. But that doesn't mean I don't find them appealing. That just goes against basic human nature.
brenda m - Nov 17, 2011 12:34:39 pm PST #7322 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
His argument was: Why aren't there any women rock musicians? And in order to "prove" his argument he created his own special definition of women, and said, "there, there aren't any."
To take his own arguments: one of his "points" is that women are not [as] underrepresented in classical music as in rock. So some mysterious something must be different.
Well, one of those something's is that many orchestras now use blind auditions where the performers are behind a screen for exactly that reason. And guess what? You put women behind a screen, they win auditions more often. What oh what could be the cause?
Hil R. - Nov 17, 2011 12:39:24 pm PST #7323 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l
Well, one of those something's is that many orchestras now use blind auditions where the performers are behind a screen for exactly that reason. And guess what? You put women behind a screen, they win auditions more often. What oh what could be the cause?
I remember the first time I auditioned for all-state band in high school with this process. I walked into the room, and there was a chair and a screen. I had no idea whether I was supposed to wait for a signal to begin playing or what, and there was no one on my side of the screen to ask, and calling out questions to the other side of the screen seemed like it would totally defeat the purpose, so I finally just played the piece I was supposed to play and walked out of the room. I have no idea if anyone was even listening from the other side of the screen. (I didn't make it into all-state that year.)
Jesse - Nov 17, 2011 1:12:20 pm PST #7324 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
Fuuuuck. I am feeling kind of demoralized about work and now I have to do stupid freelance work. I really need to make the freelance work about how I am actually good at what I do. But in order to do that, I need to stop beating myself up about the stupid job thing. FEH. And a cocktail would help with the one but not the other.