Anya Christina Emmanuella Jenkins. Twenty years old. Born on the fourth of July — and don't think there weren't jokes about that my whole life, mister, 'cause there were. 'Who's our little patriot?' they'd say, when I was younger and therefore smaller and shorter than I am now.

Anya ,'Potential'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


amyth - Nov 10, 2011 1:37:03 am PST #5744 of 30001
And none of us deserving the cruelty or the grace -- Leonard Cohen

Suzi, I'm so sorry. You are definitely a good mom.

ita, I'm sorry, too. I wish you could get some sleep, and eat, and everything.

Hil, I'm amazed at the mob mentality of the students. I like to think that wouldn't happen here under similar circumstances, but I can't say that it wouldn't.


Sophia Brooks - Nov 10, 2011 1:40:14 am PST #5745 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

This incident is making me think about how it is really drummed into us at my university to NOT call 911, but to call campus security. I always assumed that it was to reduce extraneous calls to 911, but now...


le nubian - Nov 10, 2011 2:36:14 am PST #5746 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

What I can't fathom is how he could have continued to work with those people.

I agree with this. The GA probably felt he followed proper procedures, but the Department of Education may wonder why the police weren't called.

If you see someone murdered, are you just supposed to use one of the on-campus phones to report it? You gotta wonder if someone using an illegal hot plate in the dorms would have gotten a more serious response from the campus police than child abuse.


Ginger - Nov 10, 2011 2:56:50 am PST #5747 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

If the campus police are sworn officers, they are real police, just working for a university rather than a city. I'd guess that a 911 call from campus would be routed to the campus police, and the process would slow response time. In the case of Penn State, at this point it appears that only the earlier complaint, which didn't include an actual sex act, was actually reported to the campus police, and it was fairly extensively investigated and referred to a state agency. This is not to say that campus police departments, like all police departments, aren't subject to cronyism and corruption.

eta: A university or small town force normally turns over a crime like murder to county or state investigators.


le nubian - Nov 10, 2011 3:10:51 am PST #5748 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I did not know that it was referred to a state agency. So why wasn't it followed through at the state agency level?

Is this where the DA's disappearance comes in?


Ginger - Nov 10, 2011 3:28:16 am PST #5749 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Here's an article on the '98 investigation: [link]


flea - Nov 10, 2011 3:54:31 am PST #5750 of 30001
information libertarian

Hil, a college friend of mine is giving a seminar at PSU today - Michelle Lacey, who teaches at Tulane. Say hi if you go!

(Edit: In Math, natch. She's in Statistics.)


flea - Nov 10, 2011 4:04:10 am PST #5751 of 30001
information libertarian

On another topic, I am glad there is such national outrage over the rape of boys. I just wish there were comparable outrage over the rape of girls and women, which I suspect is rather more common in the grand scheme of things.


le nubian - Nov 10, 2011 4:06:31 am PST #5752 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Oh Ginger.

That's really terrible. I cannot believe that they thought this guy showering with a 10-year-old was "boundary issues." Well, I think the state and the feds need to get involved with this given the police involved may have done something wrong.

I'm disgusted.

I'm really disgusted.


sumi - Nov 10, 2011 4:11:58 am PST #5753 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

What I want to know is did the custodian and the GA having seen that coach raping a little boy(s) - intervene directly right there and why not?

Yeah, the whole thing is beyond appalling.