It's just an object. It doesn't mean what you think.

River ,'Objects In Space'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Holli - Nov 08, 2011 7:16:39 am PST #5366 of 30001
an overblown libretto and a sumptuous score/ could never contain the contradictions I adore

So did any Phillyistas know that there's a warehouse in your fair city that sells vintage clothing in bulk? Guys, I want to go to there. In fact, I'm thinking road trip, a few Saturdays from now. And Mr. Flowersocks might be coming with me.

I am boggled by anti-vaxers, as usual. My response always ends up boiling down to "Science! It works, bitches!" but I know that's not helpful.


Amy - Nov 08, 2011 7:18:07 am PST #5367 of 30001
Because books.

Holli, I saw that in your LJ! I'd love to go, but I don't really want to buy in bulk, you know?


Jessica - Nov 08, 2011 7:19:07 am PST #5368 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

It's exactly like the Civil Rights Movement and the Vietnam War Protests in that way.

No, it's not. The Vietnam war protests had a set of specific goals - end the draft, end the war. Civil Rights protests were designed with specific actions aimed at specific policies and/or laws. (Sit-ins, for example.)

The Occupy movement is moving in that direction, and will probably get there. But they're not there yet, and the reporting on ALL sides has been nothing but atrocious and unhelpful.


Cashmere - Nov 08, 2011 7:31:19 am PST #5369 of 30001
Now tagless for your comfort.

If she carries to term, she will have been pregnant with all the children combined a total of 15 years. I don't even know what to say to that.

The fact that she has not gone through menopause makes me deny the existence of a benevolent god.


Strix - Nov 08, 2011 7:33:57 am PST #5370 of 30001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Okay, I laughed hard enough that I hurt my portacath, so I hope you feel *really* bad. Because I read "licking random dicks and penises".

ita !, I didn’t mean to hurt you! But NO!! Was teacher. The good kind, not the creepy kind. EUCH!

But the immuno-suppressed kids GO to school anyway, so an immuno suppressed adult might not find it that bad.

That’s a good and valid point, Kat; I was anecdataing from my Year of Catching All The Ick.

It's cold and rainy here; I am so going to the store and making a pot o' spicy chili! YUM. Then working like a working thing.

I may even...attempt preemptive holiday house-cleaning. GASP.


Amy - Nov 08, 2011 7:34:26 am PST #5371 of 30001
Because books.

The fact that she has not gone through menopause makes me deny the existence of a benevolent god.

When would she possibly have time?


Jessica - Nov 08, 2011 7:39:14 am PST #5372 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

The fact that she has not gone through menopause makes me deny the existence of a benevolent god.

She probably feels just the opposite.


Consuela - Nov 08, 2011 7:39:43 am PST #5373 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

The fact that she has not gone through menopause makes me deny the existence of a benevolent god.

If she's 45, she's edging up on perimenopause, but one can still be fertile at that time.

As for the Occupy folks, I do think that the message of OccupyOakland has gotten a bit muddled. It's about economic injustice, but it's also about public sector unions, and not cutting down trees, and police brutality, and racism (institutional and otherwise), and anti-capitalism, and general radical politics. While the police crackdown in Oakland helped get the movement broad national (and international) attention, Oakland isn't a particularly good exemplar, because the social & political context here is so fraught.

There are certainly people at OO who don't care much about middle-class homeowners getting foreclosed on--they think the entire capitalist system, and the idea of owning property and making money and having a retirement fund, is all bullshit. And there's more of them there than, I think, at the other Occupy protests, because of how the Oakland-Berkeley area is a center of gravity for radical politics. If Oakland leads the charge, the momomentum of the movement will get pissed away on sixty-three different agendas.

As it is, I still don't get why it was so important to shut down the Port of Oakland last week--a whole bunch of union members lost pay that day because they couldn't work.


Holli - Nov 08, 2011 7:48:06 am PST #5374 of 30001
an overblown libretto and a sumptuous score/ could never contain the contradictions I adore

Amy, you don't have to buy a ton of stuff there if you go when it's open to the public on a Saturday. It looks like dresses still only cost around $15, and that number drops the more you buy.


Theodosia - Nov 08, 2011 7:48:28 am PST #5375 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I wonder if the 15 years of pregnancy means that her ovaries are well-rested and have a remaining supply of fertile eggs.

BTW, the argument I avoided with the anti-vaxer was sparked off by the mutual friend talking about the appalling idea of Pox lollipops. Still making my head want to splodify.