Lorne: Once the word spreads you beat up an innocent old man, well, the truly terrible will think twice before going toe-to-toe with our Avenging Angel. Spike: Yes. The geriatric community will be soiling their nappies when they hear you're on the case. Bravo.

'The Cautionary Tale of Numero Cinco'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


billytea - Nov 06, 2011 9:55:12 am PST #5009 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

What's the trick to surmounting that geometrical incompatibility?

In essence, patience, care and cooperation.It's not impossible, just a difficult fit.


Allyson - Nov 06, 2011 9:55:39 am PST #5010 of 30001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

There is nothing that makes me feel more helpless and stupid than being unable to light my pilot. I'm frozen. My fingers are too cold to type. And I can't figure this shit out.


§ ita § - Nov 06, 2011 10:04:36 am PST #5011 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

In essence, patience, care and cooperation.It's not impossible, just a difficult fit.

Good god, that's some metaphor shit writ large, huh?


amyth - Nov 06, 2011 10:04:42 am PST #5012 of 30001
And none of us deserving the cruelty or the grace -- Leonard Cohen

meara! Glad you went to urgent care. Hope you get better soon!


meara - Nov 06, 2011 10:17:54 am PST #5013 of 30001

Yeah, I have a z-pack and albuterol now (though it's the first time I've used an inhaler, and I think it just got all over my tongue, even with the spacer). Plus my insurance is being whacky (in a bad way) about how much they're paying for prescriptions, so I have to call them Monday.

I can take sick time in theory, but I'm supposed to fly to Phoenix Tuesday evening. And there's a ton of stuff I didn't get done LAST week because I was sick...argh.


Steph L. - Nov 06, 2011 10:20:07 am PST #5014 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Part of the reasoning behind it was that, for distance cyclists, there is a lot of muscle repair each night and the gluten supposedly slowed down the healing by causing inflammation. I'm going to look and see if I can find something about it, but that was the general idea.

Without having done any research myself, I feel like there are a lot of wackadoo health claims around various dietary changes. That said, if they aren't leading to malnutrition, I vote whatever works for you.

I think the deal is that *if* a person has gluten issues, then eating it can cause inflammation (not just gastrointestinal issues; there is a host of problems that gluten causes for people who are sensitive to it that have nothing to do with the gut).

That's not the same as saying that gluten causes inflammation for everyone, because it doesn't. For people who don't have a problem with gluten, eating it won't lead to any physical problems (except maybe extra weight if they eat nothing but Little Debbie snack cakes [man, I MISS Little Debbies SO MUCH]).

It's like peanut allergies (or any other allergy) -- if you have the allergy/sensitivity, eating it will cause you problems. If you don't have the allergy, then eating it won't cause problems.


sarameg - Nov 06, 2011 10:21:08 am PST #5015 of 30001

Um, honey? You don't mess with pneumonia. It can seriously take you out for weeks and weeks if you don't take it easy.


Strix - Nov 06, 2011 10:22:21 am PST #5016 of 30001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

You are NOT flying to Phoenix with pneumonia, meara! that's a great way to land in the hospital.

Your boss can talk to me.


meara - Nov 06, 2011 10:22:56 am PST #5017 of 30001

...I already flew to Spokane and San Francisco with pneumonia, hey?


amyth - Nov 06, 2011 10:24:25 am PST #5018 of 30001
And none of us deserving the cruelty or the grace -- Leonard Cohen

Erin's in charge, remember.