Mmm. Wife soup. I must've done good.

Wash ,'War Stories'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Oct 26, 2011 4:19:07 pm PDT #3343 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

It probably is, Jesse, but the language is so frigging *precious* it made me gag.

Oh sure.

You guys, I have been such a stressball for the past two days, and after therapy, I feel so much better! Nothing has changed, but just putting stuff out there is so helpful.


javachik - Oct 26, 2011 4:23:34 pm PDT #3344 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

The language on details like that was a bit annoying, but I think, as strega mentions, it's all a set-up.

I dunno, they didn't read as qualifiers or rationalizations to me. They read like she expects readers to nod and think, "I can relate!"

And I dunno, maybe they do. I don't know who the Atlantic's typical subscriber is. Maybe it's Elizabeth Gilbert.

Well. I read it on my Kindle now, but had a print sub for years. I've traveled a lot. I have awesome friends in awesome places, but you know that because many of you are those friends. I'm fairly accomplished in my career and own my own home.

And still, when I get together with extended family over the holidays, the very sweet and concerned relatives never hesitate to ask me when I am going to "finally settle down".

ETA: what the article did for me, personally, like I said, was to help de-myth the whole "marriage is the only way to be a fully evolved person". I related to a lot of what she wrote, even if her words were precious.

ETAA: And the great thing about the Kindle (or print version) - no yucky comments to be annoyed by!


amyth - Oct 26, 2011 4:24:54 pm PDT #3345 of 30001
And none of us deserving the cruelty or the grace -- Leonard Cohen

You guys, I have been such a stressball for the past two days, and after therapy, I feel so much better! Nothing has changed, but just putting stuff out there is so helpful.

Yay!

I totally gagged at aerie too, and then wondered if I've been living in the suburbs in NC for too long. I'm glad to hear that it's actually just that fucking precious after all.


le nubian - Oct 26, 2011 4:27:55 pm PDT #3346 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

what makes an aerie different from an apt?

could someone please fucking tell me?

do faeries live there?


Amy - Oct 26, 2011 4:28:41 pm PDT #3347 of 30001
Because books.

And still, when I get together with extended family over the holidays, the very sweet and concerned relatives never hesitate to ask me when I am going to "finally settle down".

That's what I meant about the grass is always greener, though. I "settled down" a long time ago, but I still questions and funny, semi-pitying looks when I say I've never traveled abroad or finished college and we don't own a house. It always goes both ways.


Amy - Oct 26, 2011 4:29:53 pm PDT #3348 of 30001
Because books.

what makes an aerie different from an apt?

An aerie is a bird's nest in a high place.


javachik - Oct 26, 2011 4:30:41 pm PDT #3349 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

That's what I meant about the grass is always greener, though. I "settled down" a long time ago, but I still questions and funny, semi-pitying looks when I say I've never traveled abroad or finished college and we don't own a house. It always goes both ways.

Oh definitely. But I wonder, do people often ask you when you're going to travel so that you can finally fulfill some sort of destiny (the way people ask me when I am going to "land a husband")? It's more the societal stigma that gets to me. I mean, I'd like to have a partner for sure, but on top of that I deal with all of the other messaging from society about coupledom and marriage.


Amy - Oct 26, 2011 4:31:40 pm PDT #3350 of 30001
Because books.

Maybe not with travel, but there's definitely a stigma about not finishing college. Or maybe it's just in my head, and I see it in others.


javachik - Oct 26, 2011 4:34:18 pm PDT #3351 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

No, you're right. There're so many stigmas to be had - enough to go around!


le nubian - Oct 26, 2011 4:43:51 pm PDT #3352 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

so why didn't she just say "bird's nest?"