Anya: Are you stupid or something? Giles: Allow me to answer that question with a firing.

'Sleeper'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Lee - Apr 07, 2012 9:35:20 am PDT #29916 of 30001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Nail polish fans!

Speaking of which, are you in or out for the next round of the polish exchange?

My mother has either gotten more racist with age or just less good at hiding it. It's not really a black white thing though. About 10 years ago, when they were selling their house, my mother inexplicably started in on how she didn't really want to sell to Armenians, or at least not those kind of Armenians.


Strix - Apr 07, 2012 9:35:46 am PDT #29917 of 30001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

It was a long process, but the thing about my dad -- he always LISTENED.

He didn't change overnight. It took 20 years or so. And he's still not perfect, but he's trying.


smonster - Apr 07, 2012 9:43:07 am PDT #29918 of 30001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Speaking of which, are you in or out for the next round of the polish exchange?

I was waffling, but I'm in. Do you have my new address?


§ ita § - Apr 07, 2012 9:43:53 am PDT #29919 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I have a fair amount of racists, or, well shadists or ethnocentrists in my extended family. Not so much with the immediate. There's no chance of me changing it, because they're entirely self-aware, and it's a conscious decision they're perfectly happy with. I mean, when someone says "I hate the Nigerians. They're the only black people that sincerely believe they're better than Jamaicans." what the hell can I do?

I do try and point out the hypocrisy and possible irony at every turn, but get told to fuck off in response pretty much all the time.

Ah, well, so be it.

What we had thought was sexism on my father's part turned out to be a demonstration of him believing he was better than everyone. He wasn't better than women because he was a man, just because he was him. He's also better than all men minus one.

Oh, okay. It's pretty hard to argue someone out of that point of view.


Lee - Apr 07, 2012 9:59:46 am PDT #29920 of 30001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Do you have my new address?

Nope! That was going to be my next question.

You know what's a really good way to feel like a failure as a home owner? Trying to turn back on the sprinklers and failing because you can't get the #%*^ box that houses the controls open. I even went out there with tools and took it off the wall of the house, and it's still stuck shut.


flea - Apr 07, 2012 10:05:21 am PDT #29921 of 30001
information libertarian

The day we moved into our house, we locked ourselves out in the first 15 minutes. mr. flea had to jimmy open a back window and climb in. Then we lost the cat. Shit happens.

My family does ok on race (well, except Great-grandpa, but he's a) 90 and b) an asshole anyway.) Class, on the other hand, is our downfall. I am sure my mother would have been chuffed if I'd married the young Barack Obama, but she was a bit suspicious about my (then) boyfriend who was a graduate student in engineering and had merely middle-middle class accountants for parents.


Theodosia - Apr 07, 2012 10:11:25 am PDT #29922 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I saw this article and thought of Hecubus: [link] At least he hasn't taken it to this extreme... yet.


§ ita § - Apr 07, 2012 10:23:37 am PDT #29923 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't think my parents would make any excuses or be particularly polite if I got involved with someone who wasn't intellectually capable of an undergrad degree. I don't think, after all this time, they'd judge if someone didn't have one, but they'd have to be bright enough and "together" enough to be able to, if they'd wanted to.

Oh, they'd judge.

I'm pretty sure the only reason they don't judge me for just having one degree is because I patently understand a bunch of shit they will never wrap their heads around, like, say, hard sciences, and some mathematical fundamentals.


Lee - Apr 07, 2012 10:32:44 am PDT #29924 of 30001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Shit happens.

Yep. I still need to figure out how to get the fricking box open though.

It used to open, so I know it can.


Aims - Apr 07, 2012 11:27:26 am PDT #29925 of 30001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Is the box plugged in?

(It's all I got.)