Death is your art. You make it with your hands day after day. That final gasp, that look of peace. And part of you is desperate to know: What's it like? Where does it lead you? And now you see, that's the secret. Not the punch you didn't throw or the kicks you didn't land. She really wanted it. Every Slayer has a death wish. Even you.

Spike ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


meara - Mar 30, 2012 8:05:23 am PDT #28817 of 30001

staff members at tertiary institutions across Jamaica engage in heterosexual, homosexual or bisexual relationships with students.

Also...how do you engage in a "bisexual relationship"?? I mean, sure, I know people who label their relationships "queer" because neither of them feels they relate on the gender spectrum as man/woman or man/man or woman/woman. But in the terms of this study? Unless you suddenly had TWO students going for you, one male and one female and you slept with BOTH of them...


§ ita § - Mar 30, 2012 8:06:36 am PDT #28818 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Provocative and it worked, even if you didn't do the actual exercise, hmm?

Like I said, this in no way prevents anyone else (or indeed the same people) from doing anything else at the same time or subsequently. I'd just imagine there are more efficient ways to get better ROI, and that was pretty much the only thing I've been saying the whole time.

I'm really bad at English these days.

The approvers of that study do not realize with whom they are screwing. Er. you know what I mean.

Oh, yeah. I'd wish her the best of luck with her shit-raising efforts, but she doesn't need it.


meara - Mar 30, 2012 8:07:03 am PDT #28819 of 30001

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THat's the Northern Caribbean University policy and procedures on grants and research, and mentions the use of the IRB. I would directly call the head of the IRB and start bitching, because that's unconscionable. And if they DIDN"T approve the student and their professor should be immediately sanctioned.


Ginger - Mar 30, 2012 8:10:38 am PDT #28820 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

I can't fathom the brain of someone who thought sexually harassing someone for a "study" could be appropriate.


tommyrot - Mar 30, 2012 8:11:40 am PDT #28821 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

ita !, what does your sister teach? Do you know how they selected who they were going to "study"?


meara - Mar 30, 2012 8:12:39 am PDT #28822 of 30001

Also, per the policies/procedures:

"Although deception is practiced in some institutions in order to prevent or control participant reactivity, it is forbidden at Northern Caribbean University. An alternative procedure or strategy should be used to prevent participant reactivity."


Jesse - Mar 30, 2012 8:16:26 am PDT #28823 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

WOW, that is BANANAS.

On the bathroom front, erika makes a good point that it is not just non-typically-gendered (??) people who have issues with gender-separated bathrooms.

And thinking about disabilities, I have to confess that I came very close to pulling a "some of my best friends are black" the other day when talking about this guy who works here and is blind. He is a hot mess -- walks into people all the time, etc., but I'm pretty sure he would do that even if he could see. So I'm talking about this guy, and feel the need to mention another former colleague who is also blind and definitely had her shit together. Who does that?? Me, apparently. Sorry, world.


smonster - Mar 30, 2012 8:17:05 am PDT #28824 of 30001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

WHAT IN THE FLYING FUCK. Raise some HELL, little sis o' ita ! de la o. That is some serious unethical stinky stink bullshit.

I'd just imagine there are more efficient ways to get better ROI, and that was pretty much the only thing I've been saying the whole time.

Do you have a suggestion? Just curious.


Steph L. - Mar 30, 2012 8:19:44 am PDT #28825 of 30001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

"Although deception is practiced in some institutions in order to prevent or control participant reactivity, it is forbidden at Northern Caribbean University.

So, basically they designed a "study" that included the exact opposite of the university's rules? Kiss your grade/grant/degree goodbye, jackasses.


erikaj - Mar 30, 2012 8:25:15 am PDT #28826 of 30001
Always Anti-fascist!

One time when we were on vacation we went to the Improv...I used the men's...he made dudes get out, it was kind of awful. I think we would have done better if he didn't try so hard to be "proactive" about it. (I was already grown, so it wasn't "OMG...Dick Trauma!"(at least not for me)