Sooner or later, you're gonna want it. And the second — the second — that happens, you know I'll be there. I'll slip in, have myself a real good day.

Spike ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Liese S. - Mar 30, 2012 6:39:11 am PDT #28783 of 30001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Ooh, that reminds me, I need to resolve the space issues on my backup drive. Turns out you can't just keep replicating your Napster/Rhapsody/every other damn product that turns up libraries every time you change computers and expect your backup drive to keep them all backed up without running out of space. But I thought a terabyte was infinite, people!


brenda m - Mar 30, 2012 6:45:31 am PDT #28784 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

By "you" do you mean me? I'm confused. And possibly offended, but I don't know who you're talking about.

Not you - I was aiming at the opposite point, that driving yourself to a UTI shouldn't really be necessary to grasp the challenges trans people face. IOW, I think I'm agreeing with you, but I am probably not being coherent.


Zenkitty - Mar 30, 2012 6:51:36 am PDT #28785 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I would bet that, at least in my little corner of the world here, most people have not only never thought about the restroom problem, but would not grasp what the problem was if they did think about it.

I'm not sure that experiment would help, either. It would bring home the difficulty in finding a gender-neutral bathroom, yes, but not the reasons a gender-neutral bathroom is needed.


Liese S. - Mar 30, 2012 6:59:16 am PDT #28786 of 30001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Yeah, I think for the experiment to be successful, they should just go into their regular bathroom and have people cuss at them and chase them out. Hell, I used to get glares when I just had my hair pixie cut.


askye - Mar 30, 2012 7:10:16 am PDT #28787 of 30001
Thrive to spite them

ita I think this challenge is geared towards people with less awareness of how the bathroom issue effects people.

You have a high level of awareness but not everyone does.

I know that this is an issue, but it's not something I actually think about on a daily basis. I know my work place doesn't have unisex restrooms. But I don't know if the mall (where I've been several times in the past month) has a family restroom or a unisex one. I don't know if the movie theater I frequent has a unisex or family restroom.

Even though intellectually I know this is an issue for people I've never thought "what if I couldn't use this restroom" when I'm out in public.


brenda m - Mar 30, 2012 7:13:58 am PDT #28788 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

On another issue:

Oh Canada, you so crazy. First they dump $5 million worth of change on the highway. Then someone else crashes and spills candy over the whole thing. It's like a Simpsons montage.


Sue - Mar 30, 2012 7:30:22 am PDT #28789 of 30001
hip deep in pie

AND we're getting rid of the penny!


§ ita § - Mar 30, 2012 7:31:25 am PDT #28790 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

ita I think this challenge is geared towards people with less awareness of how the bathroom issue effects people.

That's where I see the conflict, because I think it's a really big step. But maybe just talking about it is progress for the group. It just seemed like preaching to the choir.

OMG! I am so...OMG.

That student harassing my sister?

WAS PART OF A STUDY

How is that fair? I hate all researchers right now. I don't even care. She went through a lot of agita because of that, and it's a fucking study being done by Northern Caribbean University, and also who the fuck has ever heard of them.

I'm so mad right now. So mad. That's fucking cruel.

However, I am also proud of my little sister, because I think she responded ethically perfectly, and was way nicer than she had any need to be, but FUCK.

The research team was unable to find a more suitable way of getting the information required for this study other than to deceive

Just, fuck off and leave my sister alone.


Strix - Mar 30, 2012 7:32:40 am PDT #28791 of 30001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

My female friend got thrown out of a bar for using the men's bathroom when the line to the women's was crazy long.

I got thrown out of the same bar for lighting stuff on fire. (Different occasions.)

I haven't had coffee yet. That's all I got.


brenda m - Mar 30, 2012 7:32:51 am PDT #28792 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Sure, but by dumping them on the road?