Nice acronym, Mom!

Buffy ,'Showtime'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


DebetEsse - Mar 14, 2012 6:47:47 pm PDT #26653 of 30001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

the initial assignment isn't what determines actual gender

This is what makes me uncomfortable with it. Because, to me, the use of the word "assigned" implies that it does.

I didn't choose to be a woman.

Right. One doesn't choose to be a gender, and the idea of assignment-to-a-gender-by-doctors-or-anyone-else as meaningful enough to be the term to be used to describe my experience makes me uncomfortable. They correctly identified my gender. They correctly recognized it. They didn't assign it.


Allyson - Mar 14, 2012 7:11:05 pm PDT #26654 of 30001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Did I choose to be CIS? Is that the idea?


DebetEsse - Mar 14, 2012 7:18:47 pm PDT #26655 of 30001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I view "cis" as a descriptor of your experience (was identified as female at birth, continues to self-identify as such) which is to a larger degree imposed by other people. I don't really see it as choose-able, but that's a separate issue from what we're discussing. I like "cis" because it doesn't imply that gender isn't inherent.


Steph L. - Mar 14, 2012 7:19:50 pm PDT #26656 of 30001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Use whatever terminology you like. It's late, and I'm done.


Allyson - Mar 14, 2012 7:21:22 pm PDT #26657 of 30001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I thought that CIS had to do more with what was culturally considered feminine/masculine.

Like a dude wearing Ed Hardy shirts and a chick with a butterfly tat on her lower back.

Heh. I kid. You know what I mean, though?

Did i tell you guys that i just found out that tranny is an offensive slur? And that I've been using it for years and now feel like a TOTAL ASSHOLE?


Aims - Mar 14, 2012 7:38:06 pm PDT #26658 of 30001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Yikes, sorry to start a thing.

Thank you for helping me to properly word my homework. I was writing an online unit about Girl Scouts influencing changes in the US and I had a section specifically about Bobby from Colorado who joined a Girl Scout troop and the subsequent request for the boycotting of the cookies.

I am still very unsure of what terminology to use because I am on the outside looking in and not at all sure from moment to moment what will or could or might piss people off or offend them. It is not a ... gah, how do I word this? World? that I am in on a regular basis and getting the terminology down and the reasons for particular terms can be confusing to me. I still Google half the dang terms and then look itup elsewhere to try to figure out what is considered right and non-offensive or dismissive, etc.

It's hard out there for a straight girl, yo!


Typo Boy - Mar 14, 2012 7:39:38 pm PDT #26659 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I'm pretty sure that from reading back on the thread that "transgender girl" is correct.


Aims - Mar 14, 2012 7:40:49 pm PDT #26660 of 30001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

That's what I went with.


msbelle - Mar 14, 2012 7:45:04 pm PDT #26661 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I got my hair cutted.


DavidS - Mar 14, 2012 7:46:09 pm PDT #26662 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I got my hair cutted.

Are you even more beautiful?