Love makes you do the wacky.

Willow ,'Beneath You'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

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Aims - Mar 04, 2012 3:50:22 pm PST #25225 of 30001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Boys in our district tend to start a year later, but we don't have a big sports business around here. I worry about Em being the youngest having the Nov. 30 birthday.


Jesse - Mar 04, 2012 3:52:33 pm PST #25226 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I was always the youngest in my class, but I was big and good at school (and mature enough, I guess), so it was unremarkable. It only came up regularly in college, when I wasn't 18 until the middle of freshman year, or 21 until the middle of senior year. Oddly, most of my best friends from college are December or January birthdays, a year older than me.


Aims - Mar 04, 2012 3:55:05 pm PST #25227 of 30001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

I worry with Em because there are maturity issues at work there with the ADD and other stuff that I think may be a touch of autism. But academically, she is fine and holds her own with most things. She's just so little.


meara - Mar 04, 2012 3:55:51 pm PST #25228 of 30001

Although I will say, when we had no insurance, a couple doctors *did* adjust fees based on what they would have been paid by most insurance. So it doesn't hurt to ask

Yes--especially for doctors that you've been to before, go look at your insurance statements--it'll tell you what actually got paid. You can then say to the doctor "look, I will pay $X right now, because that's what my insurance paid you" or "because my insurance paid you $X+$20, and it's easier when I pay right now as opposed to you having to do insurance paperwork" or whatever.

I did that with my chiropractor--I had a certain number of allowed sessions, and knew his 'no insurance' rate was supposedly $60/visit. But my insurance was only paying him $30, so I told him I'd keep coming and pay up front...


Amy - Mar 04, 2012 3:58:36 pm PST #25229 of 30001
Because books.

But academically, she is fine and holds her own with most things. She's just so little.

I think the most important thing is involved and caring parents who are encouraging, really. And Em's got two of those.


Beverly - Mar 04, 2012 4:00:15 pm PST #25230 of 30001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

My mom moved a lot and lost ground and wound up being the largest child in class, and never wanted me to suffer that embarrassment. So she bribed somebody who pulled some strings, had me tested and sent me to school a year early. Man, big mistake. But that's hindsight talking.

Jesse, we freeze our food refuse and then put it in the trash on trash day. Of course we don't use our freezer much, so there's room. But we don't have to put up with smelly trash between collection days.


Beverly - Mar 04, 2012 4:06:02 pm PST #25231 of 30001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

The clinics here have a self-pay rate, and if you can pay everything up front, you get a discount--anywhere from 10-20% reduction.


Jesse - Mar 04, 2012 4:20:07 pm PST #25232 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Jesse, we freeze our food refuse and then put it in the trash on trash day. Of course we don't use our freezer much, so there's room. But we don't have to put up with smelly trash between collection days.

Oh, at least I have a disposal. And mostly cook meat on the weekends, and trash day is Sunday, so it all works out OK.


DavidS - Mar 04, 2012 4:29:45 pm PST #25233 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I assume they look seriously at birthdates and cutoff dates and allow leeway for close to the mark kids?

No leeway in California. It's a hard date, and they're moving it back one month every year until it's at September. Which means Matilda barely made it ahead of their impending (and stupid!) cutoff.

With both soccer and baseball we've noticed that even a 6 month difference is HUGE in terms of behavior.

It's definitely a big deal in LL baseball. I know the Alameda LL focused heavily on May/June birthdays for their all-star teams, which paid off for them when they were 12.

However, latest data indicates that holding kids back for sports only has a short-term positive effect relative to their peers, but over the long haul is actually detrimental. A study that just came out this year shows that kids that are held back to 18 y.o. high school seniors don't develop as well.

Also, there's new data indicating that holding kids back is detrimental on the academic side as well. (The short summary: the earlier you get into a school/academic setting the better it is for stimulating your li'l puddin' brains.)


Aims - Mar 04, 2012 4:40:44 pm PST #25234 of 30001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

David - is the cutoff in California Sept 30? I think it was at least down in LA, because we weren't as worried about it when it looked like we were going to be there when she started school.

Thank you, Amy. We try really hard to be good parents.