What? I'm not allowed to hit people? Wesley: Not people capable of genocide. Angel: Those are exactly the types of people I should be allowed to hit!

'Just Rewards (2)'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


le nubian - Oct 18, 2011 6:47:51 am PDT #2013 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

David,

that is really shocking. One of the comments on the article says not to blame the Catholic church, but it was the actions of its members that was at issue.

However, when we are talking about several thousand babies, nevermind 300,000 babies, I think that is an institutional failing and not one that can simply be attributed to a handful of nurses, doctors, priests and nuns.


tommyrot - Oct 18, 2011 6:50:03 am PDT #2014 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Two words: cavity search.

To dissuade Scrabble players from hiding letters in body cavities, the letters could be made radioactive. Then each time a player puts down a letter, it would be checked for radioactivity.


Consuela - Oct 18, 2011 6:55:12 am PDT #2015 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

One of the comments on the article says not to blame the Catholic church, but it was the actions of its members that was at issue.

I don't think it's unfair to blame the hierarchy of the Church in Spain, anyway: obviously many priests and bishops had to be in the know in order to pull all that off for so long.

It's all so sad.


amyth - Oct 18, 2011 6:56:41 am PDT #2016 of 30001
And none of us deserving the cruelty or the grace -- Leonard Cohen

I definitely prefer E to W. I somehow made it back from France with no discernible jet lag, but the redeyes from the west coast always kill me. I even went to see 50/50 on the way home from the airport, AIFG.


DavidS - Oct 18, 2011 6:57:25 am PDT #2017 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

However, when we are talking about several thousand babies, nevermind 300,000 babies, I think that is an institutional failing and not one that can simply be attributed to a handful of nurses, doctors, priests and nuns.

It is absolutely an institutional failing. Though "failing" suggests a sin of omission, or oversight rather than commission. And I believe the Spanish Catholic Church knew exactly what it was doing, and protected and promoted this trafficking. It's not like they'd ever have any reason to question their monopoly on the right-behavior.

I'm going to have to slot this after the institutional practice of protecting and shuffling around pedophile priests from parish to parish, and maybe after the Magdalene Sisters which still gets me crazy angry.

Though I have to say, sexually abusing children, stealing babies and enslaving wayward girls is quite a trifecta of evil.


Burrell - Oct 18, 2011 6:59:39 am PDT #2018 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Really, Catholic Church? Institutional baby trafficking?

Too much WTF to really comprehend.


Ginger - Oct 18, 2011 7:04:06 am PDT #2019 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

I don't think the "a few bad apples" defense is going to work for this.


Consuela - Oct 18, 2011 7:05:52 am PDT #2020 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

And I believe the Spanish Catholic Church knew exactly what it was doing, and protected and promoted this trafficking.

It appears to intersect with the victory of the fascists--there's a thing where the winners take babies away from the losers, as if being on the losing side of a civil war means you don't deserve to have children. Happened under Pinochet, too. Disgusting.


le nubian - Oct 18, 2011 7:06:09 am PDT #2021 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

The thing that gets me is that this went all the way into the '80s! the 1980s! You'd think this kind of thing would be in the 1880s or during WWII, but no.

But it is true, after protecting pedophile priests, why shouldn't there be other scandals lurking?


tommyrot - Oct 18, 2011 7:09:45 am PDT #2022 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Maybe things will change if bishops start going to jail.