You got all kinds of learnin' and you made me look the fool without tryin', and yet here I am with a gun to your head. That's 'cause I got people with me. People who trust each other, who do for each other, and ain't always lookin' for the advantage.

Mal ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Tom Scola - Jan 20, 2012 2:55:59 pm PST #17448 of 30001
They pay me in WOIMS

Is Shannen Doherty exhibiting any of the signs?


Jesse - Jan 20, 2012 2:58:39 pm PST #17449 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Shannen Doherty is getting an online Liberal Arts degree. Am I being punked?

She's definitely doing ads for one of those companies.

So, one of those couples trying to have a "gender free" child has now told the world it's a boy. [link] Here's the thing that irked me about the article:

The big no-no's are hyper-masculine outfits like skull-print shirts.

Really?? Skull-print is "hyper-masculine"? You can not want your pre-schooler wearing skulls, but that's a stupid reason.


DavidS - Jan 20, 2012 3:00:57 pm PST #17450 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Really?? Skull-print is "hyper-masculine"? You can not want your pre-schooler wearing skulls, but that's a stupid reason.

One of the girlier girls in Matilda's class wears a pirate skull sweater three days out of five.


§ ita § - Jan 20, 2012 3:02:07 pm PST #17451 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Still, his mom is intervening. While the school requires different uniforms for boys and girls, Sasha wears a girl's blouse with his pants.

"I don't think I'd do it if I thought it was going to make him unhappy, but at the moment he's not really bothered either way."

He's a kid, not a manifesto. You want him to wear the girl's blouse, it sounds like. It doesn't make it sound like it's his choice.


Steph L. - Jan 20, 2012 3:02:44 pm PST #17452 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Skull-print is "hyper-masculine"?

Anne Bonny might have something to say about that.

Er, not that she wore skull print. But she probably had a skull flag, and if she didn't, I DON'T WANT TO KNOW. Just give me my illusions about the bad-ass ladypirate.


Jesse - Jan 20, 2012 3:15:15 pm PST #17453 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Oh, he's definitely a manifesto.

I should put this hilarious picture from my early childhood some family friends sent recently -- I am definitely as unisex-looking as possible, but it's not like my parents didn't want people to know I was a girl.


lisah - Jan 20, 2012 3:15:31 pm PST #17454 of 30001
Punishingly Intricate

I have a frozen pizza in the oven. I took the plastic off with my own hands.

Us too! I fancied it up with olives and sundried tomatoes.

Glad Dita showed herself!

We had no problem using our credit cards in Ireland last summer. Mostly we tried to get cash from ATMs though because the charge was the same and there was no additional interest charged on it. Oh! We did call our various banks and let them know we'd be going abroad, where, and for how long. So excited for you, sara!!


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 20, 2012 3:20:16 pm PST #17455 of 30001
You have to remember that being a 5-time Olympic medalist means Hilary Knight has been playing hockey at an elite level at least 16 years. It's impossible for her to be a teenage girl less than 16 years old, thus the President's complete lack of interest.

Really?? Skull-print is "hyper-masculine"?

Why sure, just look at the raw machismo dripping off Chris Colfer and his skull print pants here: [link]


smonster - Jan 20, 2012 3:21:52 pm PST #17456 of 30001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

I should put this hilarious picture from my early childhood some family friends sent recently -- I am definitely as unisex-looking as possible, but it's not like my parents didn't want people to know I was a girl.

I got called "little fellow" more than once, because I was invariably in my brother's hand-me-downs. My hair has always been short because my mom didn't want to fuss with it. So, yeah. Totally unisex, totally not political. I did get my ears pierced at age five, but I don't think that was why.


Jesse - Jan 20, 2012 3:30:24 pm PST #17457 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Why sure, just look at the raw machismo dripping off Chris Colfer and his skull print pants here: [link]

None butcher.

My gender-neutrality was political (I had overalls with the male-female equality symbol on them), but certainly wasn't about erasing gender!