You're wrong about River. River's not on the ship. They didn't want her here, but she couldn't make herself leave. So she melted... Melted away. They didn't know she could do that, but she did.

River ,'Objects In Space'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Hil R. - Dec 15, 2011 5:25:27 am PST #11635 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I think movies that aren't explicitly Christmas movies, but which have noteworthy Christmas-related scenes, tend to get thought of as "Christmas movies."

This is why I'm giving a pass to Meet Me in St. Louis as a Christmas movie, but Sound of Music doesn't have a Christmas scene at all. And I have no explanation for The Godfather.


Hil R. - Dec 15, 2011 5:25:56 am PST #11636 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I feel like it does, but I haven't watched it in at least 10 years. Is the "So Long, Farewell" party a Christmas party? Or just a random swanky party?

It's just a random party. No Christmas in that movie.


Sophia Brooks - Dec 15, 2011 5:26:11 am PST #11637 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

And I have no explanation for The Godfather.

Maybe the horse's head is really a Christmas Present?


Steph L. - Dec 15, 2011 5:26:52 am PST #11638 of 30001
That which does not kill you should RUN

I seriously might be conflating "snow on Alps" with "hey, snow = Christmas!"

Hello, Ohioan. Durrr on me.


Amy - Dec 15, 2011 5:27:30 am PST #11639 of 30001
Because books.

I think it might be that "family time, time off" thing where it's assumed people have the time to sit down and marathon some movies.

"Favorite Things" isn't a Christmas song, but it does mention a whole bunch of winter things -- bright copper kettles, warm woolen mitten, etc.

And the "Farewell" scene is just a swanky party.


Sophia Brooks - Dec 15, 2011 5:29:13 am PST #11640 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

When I used to make a display of Christmas movie rentals at the grocery store, I always included Edward Scissorhands, because it seems like a Christmas movie to me.


Hil R. - Dec 15, 2011 5:30:08 am PST #11641 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

When I used to make a display of Christmas movie rentals at the grocery store, I always included Edward Scissorhands, because it seems like a Christmas movie to me.

That's on the On Demand list, too.


Amy - Dec 15, 2011 5:31:11 am PST #11642 of 30001
Because books.

I always watch Meet Me in St. Louis at Christmas, too. It's so nostalgic and lovely, and there is the great Christmas scene.


§ ita § - Dec 15, 2011 5:35:07 am PST #11643 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Favorite Things isn't a Christmas song though.

Doesn't stop people from considering it one, though. Last time I saw it mentioned as one was on the gawker network's worst Christmas song elimination. But it's totally not the first time, and I doubt it will be the last.


le nubian - Dec 15, 2011 5:36:36 am PST #11644 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Yeah, you know I think you have a point:

They are conflating Winter movies with Christmas movies. That said, "Sound of Music" also does not have a lot of winter on display. Most of the action takes place in the spring or summer based on the clothing and blue skies.