You can't open the book of my life and jump in the middle. Like woman, I'm a mystery.

Mal ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Spike's Bitches 47: Someone Dangerous Could Get In  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Connie Neil - Jan 12, 2012 6:12:19 am PST #5526 of 30001
brillig

Every year when we get snow, people act like this is the Equator and they've never seen solid precipitation before, much less driven in it. It's ridiculous.

At least in Utah we only have to deal with the yearly influx of Californians who are wondering what the white stuff is. Volcano ash? Catastrophic cocaine explosion?


Typo Boy - Jan 12, 2012 6:14:42 am PST #5527 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Every year when we get snow, people act like this is the Equator and they've never seen solid precipitation before, much less driven in it. It's ridiculous.

See also Washington State.


Hil R. - Jan 12, 2012 6:18:08 am PST #5528 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

My university seems to believe that snow just doesn't exist, even when it's on the ground. There were a bunch of days last year that every school in the county was closed because of the snow, but we still had classes. (I had to miss one of those days because the roads hadn't been cleared yet all the way out to my house.)


Sophia Brooks - Jan 12, 2012 6:19:54 am PST #5529 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

People in Rochester act like that about the first snowstorm of the year. Every year. And all of the sudden they are unable to drive. Or use caution in any way. And it snows here all the time. We are a snowy area in the Northeast.


Typo Boy - Jan 12, 2012 6:25:58 am PST #5530 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

They can't physically force you to produce the index by the 15th, unless they are in a room with you. We give authors deadlines every day, and they cheerfully ignore them and turn shit in late all the time. And we mutter imprecations about them, and then we just finish the manuscript.

But then I'm missing deadline! Whereas if they acknowledge that I can't be expected to turn in the Index by the 15th, I'm meeting the new deadline that was extended due to circumstances beyond my control. Yeah, yeah, I know that is not rational.


Steph L. - Jan 12, 2012 6:32:49 am PST #5531 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

But then I'm missing deadline!

I don't mean to be callous, but as someone who works in publishing, my reaction is a big fat "So what?" Are they going to smack you on the nose with a rolled-up newspaper and say "Bad author! Bad!"? Are they going to chop off your pinky?

No. They'll get it late, and then production will continue.

if they acknowledge that I can't be expected to turn in the Index by the 15th, I'm meeting the new deadline that was extended due to circumstances beyond my control.

Ah. You want to win. Here is my 100% honest advice: let it go. For your own good. Publishing is not about winning honor in the publication process. It's about getting your thing published. End goal. Let the rest of it go. Your layout team is actually working FOR you, not against you. Deadlines get missed all the time. Deadlines move all the time. Shit still gets published and authors still retain their pinkies. Promise.


Tom Scola - Jan 12, 2012 6:39:17 am PST #5532 of 30001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Are they going to smack you on the nose with a rolled-up newspaper and say "Bad author! Bad!"?

Don't lie. You really do wish that were a part of your job description, right?


Amy - Jan 12, 2012 6:39:52 am PST #5533 of 30001
Because books.

Deadlines get missed all the time. Deadlines move all the time. Shit still gets published and authors still retain their pinkies. Promise.

What she said, absolutely.


Shir - Jan 12, 2012 6:40:16 am PST #5534 of 30001
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

by "White Death," I mean "I live in Cincinnati, so the rain changing to snow and accumulating less than 1 inch is going to SHUT THE CITY DOWN," and I am not even kidding. Every year when we get snow, people act like this is the Equator and they've never seen solid precipitation before, much less driven in it. It's ridiculous.

Change "snow" to "rain" and "Cincinnati" to "Tel Aviv/Jerusalem", and that's where we are.

Since I'm off the clock, I can now elaborate on why that law won't pass (at least for the meanwhile), and maybe to shed light about why the Bet Shemesh story exploded the way it did. Again, I speak only for myself.

There's a term in Hebrew called Marit Ayin/Marris Ayin. It literally translates as "the appearance of the eye" and - refraining from a permitted action because Jews might see you and think you're really doing some other (forbidden) action - something you won't do/do if only for the sake of appearance. Now, although the public sphere in Israel is supposedly secular, there are a lot of religious aspects in it.

(Background: the current situation is a political secular-religious status quo which concerns the public sphere: [link] I'd go as far as saying that changing this will be in the lines of changing the U.S. Constitution.)

That's where the part of the Marit Ayin enters the plot. Giving the public sphere a religious Marit Ayin is considered as a violation of the status quo - just as spitting on schoolgirls because they're not "modest enough" is. The tricky part is to remember that even though there is a status quo, it doesn't mean that there is secular-religious equality, just as there isn't equality between men and women or Jews and Arabs here. But the status quo makes one feel as this exists, as a basis of a social contract (which expired looooong ago. But that's another story).

Tackling the Marit Ayin - not just the secular-religious one, but any kind - is tackling the status quo, pure and simple. And this kind of law as Seska brought is doing just this. It doesn't promise tackling the major inequalities that any kind of social understanding or status quo are based upon; it just means it raises questions about the status quo in itself, which can be risky for the social order and scares everyone (I hold myself not to give current political examples at this point). So if only for the sake of appearance, the public sphere won't change much for women this year, for better and for worse.

But it will change, sooner or later. Arabs and Ultra-Orthodox families have 4-8, even 12 children, while secular and orthodox have 1-4. But for now, I believe the status quo and its Marit Ayin will remain as is, without major changes.

For further reading, this is it in a nutshell: [link]

I hope I managed to explain myself on this. It's kind of complicated, and maybe I'm too much "on the inside" to see this as it really is.

Edit: grammar bad, Shir pretty.


Steph L. - Jan 12, 2012 6:43:17 am PST #5535 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Are they going to smack you on the nose with a rolled-up newspaper and say "Bad author! Bad!"?

Don't lie. You really do wish that were a part of your job description, right?

Oh my god, yes. But not about deadlines. We don't really care a whole lot when authors miss deadlines, unless it's by 2 weeks or something, because we deliberately build in time for them to miss the stated deadline. We expect it.

But for other ridiculous petty stuff, like arguing with us about fucking GRAMMAR, then yes, we have all desperately wished we could reach through the internets and whack the author on the nose.