Does anybody mind if I pass out?

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Connie Neil - Dec 29, 2011 7:50:12 pm PST #4866 of 30001
brillig

It and the story about the woman who refused to go to the back of the bus have gotten pretty wide coverage.

I've been wondering how that was playing out.

GO TEAM BRAVE LOVE.

The Polter-Mom shall either have an epiphany on the benefits of happy sons, or will cling to Polter as her hope for proper wifeage.


WindSparrow - Dec 29, 2011 7:56:44 pm PST #4867 of 30001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Dana, I'm so sorry that you are having to say goodbye to your grandmother. May her transition be peaceful, and may there be comfort for everyone in your family.


WindSparrow - Dec 29, 2011 7:57:56 pm PST #4868 of 30001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Gris, congratulations!

Well done, brother of P-C. Much strength and health to the family that you are building.


Shir - Dec 29, 2011 9:07:47 pm PST #4869 of 30001
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

One at a time:

Dand, I'm so sorry. Much ~ma. I hope the hospice will be one of the kick-ass hospices, where everyone feels comfortable 100% of the time they can, and the staff is superb, and the family can visit anytime.

Gris! Congrats! Welcome, Calvin!

Congratulations to Brother of P-C as well!

As for controversy and ultra-orthodox and women in Israel: forget it. Seriously. It has nothing, zilch, nada to do with women's rights, feminism, or Hollaback. It's a vicious political spin which portrays *every* ultra-orthodox as an evil threat to the existing of Israel, on the backs of "The Women". Because you know, who will protect those poor women, when the country doesn't do anything for them?

Don't get me wrong: there are attacks on women. Some of them are by ultra-orthodox. But that stuff been happening for years now. Sex-segregated bus lines? Almost 20 years now. The story of the religious girls school that isn't modest enough for the ultra-orthodox lunatics that live in the building next to it? At least 3-4 years. The fact that only in the past week 90% of the media in Israel finds a new story where a Evil Ultra-Orthodox was being wrong towards An Innocent Girl/Woman on a daily basis? Oh, hey, you've changed, Mr. Media. And not for the better.

And 80% of the coverage, again, has nothing to do with discussing women's right or autonomy. They're all "Ultra-Orthodox are dangerous to the society. If they didn't exist, all women in Israel wouldn't have a single problem". It's revolting. It's playing women's rights as a political card, and not treating women as human beings. Only when it comes to Arabs or Ultra-Orthodox, apparently, some people here remembered that there is legislation against these sort of things. I'm still waiting for women writers to get back and writing on Haaretz political commentaries (one of the so-called liberal newspapers in Israel), which didn't happen for months now. But I guess it's so much easier to see discrimination when it's "the others", and not the enlightened-to-only-themselves liberals.

(Yes, I have a lot of rage and a lot to say about it).

(Our guess is that Shinui #2 is raising as a political party. The same anti-religious party which disappeared and left 1/4 of the Knesset with religious and ultra-orthodox members, as a backlash to the stuff it did).


DavidS - Dec 29, 2011 9:16:27 pm PST #4870 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

What has two thumbs and a brother who just got engaged?

He's a rebel! For love!


Connie Neil - Dec 29, 2011 9:18:29 pm PST #4871 of 30001
brillig

How interesting, Shir! In America it's definitely being played as a civil rights thing, with the woman on the bus being called the next Rosa Parks (a black woman in the 60s who was tired after a day's work who decided one day to say no to being told to go to the back of the bus, Google will tell you much more than can be put in a post). Hubby and I were talking about it the other day, and I'll tell him that this is nothing new is Israel, but a new spin. I seemed to recall that there were concerns in some circles about the ultra orthodox's influence.


Shir - Dec 29, 2011 9:35:42 pm PST #4872 of 30001
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

Oh, I know about Rosa Parks. And yes, the idiots in Israel are trying really hard to find new "Rosa Parks" everyday. And when they can't, they invent them - sending secular females reporters to get on these buses. Most times, nobody cares where they sit. Not to mention they're really not Rosa Parks - those young secular women don't live in the ultra-orthodox community. They won't have to deal with what ultra-orthodox women will have to deal with if they'll choose to sit in front (and some of them are brave enough to do so).

And yes, there is a concern about ultra-orthodox, because there are more than them now and Israel does need to rethinks their place in society (most of them don't pay taxes and don't serve in IDF, if I'll borrow republican discourse for a minute). But trying to spin it on women's backs, when misogyny and chauvinism are in the non-ultra-orthodox community as well (and of course - most of the ultra-orthodox community isn't lunatic) - that's bullshit. That's using women's rights as a political card, while doing nothing to promote it.


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Dec 29, 2011 11:22:26 pm PST #4873 of 30001
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

Congrats on your anniversary, and to your cousin, sj!

Shir, I'm sorry to hear things are so stressful for you at the moment. You were so sweet to come to the shiva. Was lovely to see you, too!

ETA

She thought it was a bit rude.

I did not! I was just very stressed when you were texting. Apologies if I was abrupt - was trying to get from my mother's house to my home to London to Israel in 24 hours. It was a little trying.

Dana, I'm really sorry to hear about your grandmother. I hope the hospice care is good. My grandfather had fantastic hospice care a few years ago.


Cass - Dec 29, 2011 11:39:12 pm PST #4874 of 30001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Wonderful hospice care is a really good thing. I actually donate every year in my stepmom's name to the hospice that helped care for my grandma. They made a difficult time a little bit easier.


Beverly - Dec 29, 2011 11:53:07 pm PST #4875 of 30001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Our hospice facility was amazing. We were pretty stunned the last week Mom was there, and they made it fine and just let us be stunned. I can't say enough for them, efficient, unobtrusive, competent and compassionate. And the facility is beautiful.

Actually, I did have some thoughts about a week of such care and beauty in the midst of life, when one could enjoy and appreciate it. But that would imply the last week would be one of difficulty and plainness, so.

Gris, happy baby! Congratulations.

We don't have AC--in the heat of summer we do window fans for flow-through and to get stagnant air moving. In winter we keep the 'stat at 64. The coldest spot in the house is my closet and the corner of my bathroom where the toilet is--not.on. I keep a small oil rad plugged in on the lowest setting in that corner, just to knock the chill off the air. There's one cold wall near where I sit in the living room, but we keep throws at hand and if the chill gets too much I wrap up. We need to look into the insulation in that wall. Everywhere else seems fine.