I like money better than people. People can so rarely be exchanged for goods and/or services!

Willow ,'Showtime'


Spike's Bitches 47: Someone Dangerous Could Get In  

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WindSparrow - May 06, 2013 5:48:37 pm PDT #29787 of 30001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Well, the reaction I'm having to your posts, bonny, is to wish to travel back in time and remove your father from the face of the earth* and do whatever I could to make you safe (and what's more, feel safe).

Frank, I'm glad you are safe. What a horrible thing to happen.

ETA: *Not before you were conceived. I don't want to remove YOU from the planet.


Burrell - May 06, 2013 5:52:33 pm PDT #29788 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

I think they need to hear your message, bonny.


beekaytee - May 06, 2013 6:08:41 pm PDT #29789 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

Aw, thanks Andi. I'd have wanted you to!

Thanks, Burrell, I'll just send it as is.


le nubian - May 06, 2013 6:12:35 pm PDT #29790 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

bonny,

I thought it was a good letter. I must admit I can't comprehend how these advertisements are supposed to work. What if an adult is tying his shoes and bends down? Won't he see the ad? Would these ads be more effective than others?


beekaytee - May 06, 2013 6:19:28 pm PDT #29791 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

Both good questions, le n. I just don't know.


Zenkitty - May 06, 2013 6:30:41 pm PDT #29792 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

bonny, I think you should send the letter. That was the first thing I thought of, when I saw that ad. What if the adult sees the "hidden" part? What if the child thinks the adult can see it? It isn't "hidden" enough, nor reassuring enough, though I'm not sure anything could be reassuring enough.


beekaytee - May 06, 2013 6:44:48 pm PDT #29793 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

I honestly believe the campaign is something better than nothing, but I just think it needs tweaking.

It might make more sense to advertise the hotline numbers in school bathrooms, rather than on the street.


§ ita § - May 06, 2013 7:02:27 pm PDT #29794 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't think the campaign is operating in 100% adult secret, otherwise they'd be broadcasting it in the kid aural spectrum or whatever. But the idea, to the kid, that there is a world without their abuser, and a path to that world, is probably a very important message. Clearly there are lots of ads where adults can see them--the key is calling one and getting to help without raising suspicion, but it would be impossible to foster an image of a world without recourse for kids--abusive parents can see the same news reports we can, after all.

So I do think every notably different way they convey the message can be useful, and the idea (not illusion, just the very concept) of being able to escape to somewhere where all the adults care is a big takeaway here.


beekaytee - May 07, 2013 3:30:38 am PDT #29795 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

I totally agree.

It turns out that Mr. Lynn is the President and CEO of the company.

I received this message from him this morning:

Many thanks for your email. I will talk personally to our Creative Director to ensure that we take into account your comments and suggestions which are clearly so important.

I very much appreciate you contacting us.

I am at peace with it.

It might be a auto-response, but it is a refreshingly warm auto-response!


Fred Pete - May 07, 2013 4:42:22 am PDT #29796 of 30001
Ann, that's a ferret.

Just saw the latest discussion, so I know this is coming in late, but I have to add --

bonny, I thought it was an excellent email. In particular, you acknowledged that the ad agency was engaged in an honest, good faith effort to help. That way, you were able to come across as trying to improve their work based on your worldview (which, it should go without saying, isn't necessarily the same as the persons that created the ad).