Mal: Does she understand that? River: She understands. She doesn't comprehend.

'Objects In Space'


Spike's Bitches 47: Someone Dangerous Could Get In  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Strix - May 14, 2012 9:36:24 am PDT #13260 of 30001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Steph, that's huge news about your brother. How staggering, that it came so quickly on the heels of your big convo with him. Wow.

ita !, it is GOOD to see you back.

I will soon be secluding myself in copyediting purdah for much of the week, so I may just come in for occasional gasps of air. Two deadlines on Friday, I have 2 houseguests Wednesday night, and organizing a shindig for out out-of-town friends Friday night. I will not have a lot of time to breathe this week.

As soon as I get this...something sticky off my touch pad. WTF? THAT wouldn't be conducive to smooth editing. (Secret Confession: I think it's Heath Toffee Ice Cream. Oops.)


smonster - May 14, 2012 9:38:48 am PDT #13261 of 30001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Electronic cigarettes - [link]

Basically flavored vapor, with or without nicotine, in a wee battery-powered cigarette look alike. I've tried one. It wasn't an acceptable substitute. One with clove flavoring might help, but I don't know. They can also be very expensive, the reusable ones anyway.


beth b - May 14, 2012 9:44:28 am PDT #13262 of 30001
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

good for you brother -- strenght to him , your sil, you and anyone else involved in the process.

and good for you smonster -- quitting is difficult - and it can be done even if the cravings hang for a long time. When my dad quit - it was quite awhile for the cravings to go , but no more bad flu and pneumonia were major rewards.

go Erin -- we support your ability to get through this work.

and I'm sorry Sean , but demons ten to be stupid and only notice bad things. They are wrong. you might not be perfect , but you are an intelligent hard working and attractive person( in all ways )

I took today off and plan on getting a few things done including the possibility of too much tv.


meara - May 14, 2012 9:44:52 am PDT #13263 of 30001

smonster, I have a friend who made her own flavored vapors, I think she liked them better than some of the ones she could get and I think they were cheaper.


brenda m - May 14, 2012 10:13:45 am PDT #13264 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I have one of those. Not a substitute, definitely. But I can see how it could help ward off the panic or the bad ass cravings if you were quitting.


Burrell - May 14, 2012 10:15:13 am PDT #13265 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

I know quitting is a bitch, smonster, but good for you for quitting. My cousin quit smoking about 20 years ago, but he had easily been smoking for 20 years before he quit. He says he had cravings, but he says he can't remember the last time he wanted a smoke.


Atropa - May 14, 2012 10:54:17 am PDT #13266 of 30001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Steph, that's HUGE news. Much strength to you and your family.

Electronic cigarettes

I have idly considered getting a clove-flavored one of them, because there are times when I CRAVE a clove cigarette. Like, for all of last year.


sj - May 14, 2012 11:07:56 am PDT #13267 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Teppy, best of luck to your brother. I'm glad to hear he decided to get help.


Beverly - May 14, 2012 12:32:45 pm PDT #13268 of 30001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Sean, you're one of the good guys. Don't let anybody beat you up, even your own doubt.

Steph, that's awesome news about and for your brother. May rehab be relatively easy and recovery be good for him.

JZ, I'm sorry. I'm looking at more than a couple of decades as a smoker, and possible land mines ahead. We live in hope, though.

smonster, H quit about fifteen years before I did, and did it cold turkey and never looked back. He didn't even complain about my smoking in the house for a long time, until he got flu one winter and the smoke and the smell made him sicker. So I smoked outside for years more.

I have psoriasis, and at that time, it was really, really bad. I'd read of a woman who stopped smoking and her skin symptoms cleared up. So when I had bronchial flu that winter, I went to bed for a week and didn't smoke again when I got up. My skin cleared up--a miracle! I did not change my eating habits at all, in fact, I scaled back on what and when I ate, and still, my metabolism plummeted and I gained 60 pounds in three months. Still didn't smoke, though I snuck a drag off a friend's cigarette now and then. No more, though. I know if I smoked a whole cigaratte I'd be gone again. An emergency pack in the house? Would last two days.

I hate smoke in an enclosed space. I hate smelling it on my neighbor, and I can't stand more than a few minutes in her house, I feel like I'm choking.

But when I'm stuck for the next line, I hate that I can't jump up, go outside, light up and pace up and down--usually within two or three drags, I'd have the words and be fired up and back on track. No more. Now I go outside, breathe deep, swing my arms, run in place. And sometimes it helps. It's not the same, though.

And when I watch an old b/w movie with the heroine at a cafe, cup of coffee before her and smoke curling romantically around her, I want a cigarette. Every once in a while I'll catch a whiff of fresh-lit cigarette and a surge of wannit! comes over me. I watch a James Dean movie and the cigarette in the corner of his mouth while he does things, so damned sexy.

H looks at me like I've lost my mind when I occasionally voice the "I could really use a drag off a cigarette right now." He never has had that urge. But I do. I still do.

But I don't do anything about it. I like being able to walk into places and not worry about carrying smokes and lighter in my hands or a pocket. I like walking into a unfamiliar place, and not automatically scoping out the exits (though I still do this, nearly ten years post-quitting) for a quick dodge and smoke. I like not having to stand out in the rain looking like a loser to get my fix. But I still want a cigarette, now and then.


JZ - May 14, 2012 1:08:30 pm PDT #13269 of 30001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Aw, Bev. I think my mom was something of the same kind of smoker - she hasn't had a physical craving in almost twenty years, but she loved having a grown-up prop, having something to do with her hands when she was thinking or waiting or choosing just the right word. She loved the ritual of it more than anything else, and, as for you, for her it was very deeply tied to the act of writing.