Lorne: You know what they say about people who need people. Connor: They're the luckiest people in the world. Lorne: You been sneaking peeks at my Streisand collection again, Kiddo? Connor: Just kinda popped out.

'Time Bomb'


Natter 68: Bork Bork Bork  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Calli - May 27, 2011 11:24:27 am PDT #9900 of 30001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Harking back to posts of yesterhour, I'd also be up for a couch-to-3k group (although I'm not interested in actually racing--just in knowing I could jog the route). Do all runners and runners-to-be know about Map My Run? Apparently they have some sort of friend function where people can keep up with each others running stuff. Of course, we already have b.org.


Allyson - May 27, 2011 11:31:12 am PDT #9901 of 30001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I kind of wish they weren't vaguely anonymised, because people really should be called out on that idiocy.

I am a firm believer in this, also. I read one comment about the tumblr that it was all just snobby elitists picking on rubes.

And I can't figure out how anyone is supposed to stop being a rube if you don't say to them, "this is satire. You may also want to acquaint yourself with Poe's Law.


P.M. Marc - May 27, 2011 11:38:32 am PDT #9902 of 30001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Yep. That's how I knew I came in last on my corporate team.

What was your time? (I ran mine in about 45 minutes, but "run" is a strong term for what I did.)


§ ita § - May 27, 2011 11:40:01 am PDT #9903 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Ah, Christwire. I just saw it cited seriously the other day.


Allyson - May 27, 2011 11:49:43 am PDT #9904 of 30001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I read something that came up in a search result the other day that I thought was satire, but was actually a neo-nazi message board.


Toddson - May 27, 2011 12:03:02 pm PDT #9905 of 30001
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

I manage our weekly e-newsletter and a few months ago had someone send me an article to be included ... from The Onion. Never did get straightened out if she realized that it was satire ....


Allyson - May 27, 2011 12:07:18 pm PDT #9906 of 30001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Sometimes I think World Nut Daily is pulling my leg. There's definitely been times when I strongly suspected that HuffPo had to be yanking my chain.

The shrimp on the treadmill fake outrage yesterday made me want to punch people. I don't think they're pulling my leg, though.


Allyson - May 27, 2011 12:07:52 pm PDT #9907 of 30001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I totally got had by Botox Mom, though.


JZ - May 27, 2011 12:08:42 pm PDT #9908 of 30001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Not quite the same thing but definitely a sickeningly near relative, I'm having to tear myself away from the comment thread of an article in my local paper, befor I rage out or burst into tears (or both) right here at the office. A high school student in an East Bay suburb got on BART with her bike on Monday, rode out to SF, biked all the way out to the Golden Gate Bridge, and jumped. Her body hasn't been recovered. And the comment thread is full of people saying, Oh, let's not allow one of our great landmarks to be held hostage by crazy people, barriers and nets are just ugly and won't save anyone, people who want to kill themselves will do it one way or another.

Except they won't, or at least the bridge-jumpers won't. There's one landmark study on the phenomenon, published in a serious peer-reviewed journal a couple of decades ago but easily findable both on and offline, that looks at all the common-sense things people "just know" about how suicide by jumping works, and then looks at the actual statistics and does long-term follow-up on the handful of jumpers who survived and on the would-be jumpers who were stopped at the last minute. It makes no sense, but the barriers do work; people fixate on one particular spot, and when that spot is blocked off they just... wander off and live. 20 years post-crisis, 94% of the surviving jumpers and almost-jumpers were still alive and had never made a second attempt.

It's a widely-available, layperson-friendly study, and every time someone loses their life to the death song of the GGB a handful of hardy souls show up in the comment threads posting links to this landmark study, pleading for people to read it and understand it. And most people just downrate the commenters without answering, and the few who do read it come back and say, "Well, that may be what the research shows, but I know in my gut that what I think is true."

I just cannot, cannot understand how someone can read that study and come away saying, "I know better." Or not even read it, just reflexively boo at anyone who points out that it exists. And then I think about all these assholes privileging a pretty view of the bridge over the life of a 15-year-old girl, and I just want to smash them all.


tommyrot - May 27, 2011 12:10:59 pm PDT #9909 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Oh, let's not allow one of our great landmarks to be held hostage by crazy people, barriers and nets are just ugly and won't save anyone, people who want to kill themselves will do it one way or another.

I used to think that. Then I read about that study and changed my opinion.

That's how it's supposed to work, right?