I'm so evil and... skanky. And I think I'm kinda gay.

Willow ,'Storyteller'


Natter 68: Bork Bork Bork  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - May 21, 2011 11:40:30 am PDT #9135 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I was referred to as it for a while. And then mistaken for a boy into my 30s. So, cautionary tale.

I have (more) porn questions. Straight porn for gay guys--what about it makes it not porn for straight guys, or even more likely, straight women? I get that straight men might not want to watch solo jerkoff acts much, but when it's a het pair, what do you emphasise that makes it more about a gay viewer than a straight woman?


Hil R. - May 21, 2011 11:41:14 am PDT #9136 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Didn't people (at some point in the past) dress small children v. similarly up until an ages (not sure what age it would be) - i.e., long hair, clothing more like gowns?

[link] The photo gallery there includes Franklin Roosevelt as a child with long hair and a frilly dress.


JZ - May 21, 2011 11:53:50 am PDT #9137 of 30001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Because of the suposed Rapture, a woman tried to kill her two daughters and herself. And a man in Nairobi killed himself.

Shit. That's what's been giving me Rapture anxiety - not the thing itself, but what the fear or disappointment might make unstable people do to themselves and their children. I'm just old enough to remember Jonestown, and the piles of dead families, appearing on the TV at my grandparents' house before my mom had time to lunge at the TV and switch it off.

This is what religion encourages: fear based on imaginary terrors.

OTOH, PZ Meyers, suck my cock.

If we could look at a baby and coo, "oh, isn't ** cute!" without having to say he or she or IT, knowing the baby's gender might not seem quite so important.

I usually dodge around this by just talking right to the baby: "Aren't you cute! You are such a little muffin! What a smiley-puss!" and any other non-gender-dependent endearment that comes to mind.


beekaytee - May 21, 2011 12:09:54 pm PDT #9138 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

I'm just old enough to remember Jonestown

I picked up a first person account of Jonestown (and a thorough biography), written by one of Ryan's staff, in the library last week.

I couldn't put it down, despite really, really wanting to. It finally occurred to me that my fascination resulted from watching the television accounts at the time. I had no idea how deeply it had effected me.

Remarkably, I can remember Powers Booth's portrayal in the inevitable made-for-tv movie as if it was aired today. Creepy.

Then again, I can also remember Yaphet Kotto as Idi Amin too.


Strix - May 21, 2011 12:16:38 pm PDT #9139 of 30001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Didn't people (at some point in the past) dress small children v. similarly up until an ages (not sure what age it would be) - i.e., long hair, clothing more like gowns?

Yep. Check out Ernest Hemingway: [link]


§ ita § - May 21, 2011 12:19:53 pm PDT #9140 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Man, I had no idea this was a thing. I'm irritated, but not irrationally so. It makes me want to slap people, but I do know to not actually do it.

Did anyone watch the GA finale? How do you feel about Cristina? I think her reaction to absolutely not want to carry a pregnancy to term or be a parent...well, it's perfectly reasonable for that to be non-negotiable, isn't it? I can see Owen having difficulty because her idea of future is not his idea of a future, but in the end although "having a child" is something a couple does, "being pregnant and giving birth" is a one person job, and it's really dicky to want to force someone to do that. And sometimes you know all the talking in the world isn't going to change your mind. I'm quite dramatically on her side here.

As for Meredith, she's getting away with a lot. She should totally be more severely punished. I can't believe no name chick got chief resident.


Trudy Booth - May 21, 2011 12:26:42 pm PDT #9141 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Didn't people (at some point in the past) dress small children v. similarly up until an ages (not sure what age it would be) - i.e., long hair, clothing more like gowns?

Pretty much until they were out of diapers, iirc. Not much in the way of velcro or snaps bitd.

This is what religion encourages: fear based on imaginary terrors.

Well, and one or two other things. Honestly? It's not the religious experience I grew up with in any way.

I can understand thinking religion is just evil bullshit if that's ones entire experience of it -- but, seriously, time to crack a book or talk to a few folks. You don't have to buy into it, but at a certain point a refusal to glance around and notice, oh, hospitals and universities and one or two other things ammounts to just another flavor of willful ignorance.


le nubian - May 21, 2011 12:37:31 pm PDT #9142 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

So, Iceland's most active volcano has started erupting. 50 earthquakes have resulted from the volanco eruption.

Maybe the predictions were a day late.


Consuela - May 21, 2011 12:38:23 pm PDT #9143 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

It's not the religious experience I grew up with in any way.

No, nor me. I am mostly a cultural Catholic nowadays: I'm not entirely sure what I believe a lot of the time. Which puts me at outs with both the strongly-religious and the atheist community. When your spokespeople are folks as full of hate and self-righteousness as Christopher Hitchens, I'm not going to stand with you--even if I agree with some of what you want.


Jessica - May 21, 2011 12:43:31 pm PDT #9144 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

When your spokespeople are folks as full of hate and self-righteousness as Christopher Hitchens, I'm not going to stand with you--even if I agree with some of what you want.

"Your" spokespeople is putting it strongly. It's not like there was a vote.