Oh yeah, we're just craving THAT kind of help. Thanks, dude.
Nice acronym, Mom!
Buffy ,'Showtime'
Natter 68: Bork Bork Bork
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
amyth - May 06, 2011 5:16:24 pm PDT #7284 of 30001
And none of us deserving the cruelty or the grace -- Leonard Cohen
Strix - May 06, 2011 5:24:20 pm PDT #7285 of 30001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger
I think some of it's simple chance -- opportunity that piggybacks onto something else.
When I got mugged in my apartment (stupid naivete on my part -- left the door unlocked when bringing in a 2nd load of groceries), the dude was all about the benjamins. After I stood with my back pressed against the bedroom door (no lock) arguing with him for about 5 minutes about I just went to the grocery store and was a poor student, I finally opened the door (he was going to force it open anyway), strode to my purse, opened it, gave him the dollar in it, and asked him if he wanted a check.
Then I decided to threaten him with a knife (note: never threaten someone with a knife. Just stab.) and that's when he beat me up a little and decided I needed some rapin'.
I talked him out of it by dint of wearing controltop hose, declaring I was on the rag and bleeding like a stuck pig, and wouldn't he rather have the stereo?
He did.
I think rapists (purist rapists, I guess) have more defined motives than an opportunistic (I guess would be the term?) rapists.
I was dressed in a vintage 60's frock, (it was Halloween, and I was working at Viccy's Secret) no cleavage, full skirt. Not "provocative." Because rape isn't about miniskirts.
It's about imposing your ________ (fill in the blank: rage, powerlessness, misogyny, etc) on someone perceived as either a victim, or someone the rapist wants to place in that victim role, for whatever pathology of theirs.
Consuela - May 06, 2011 5:35:26 pm PDT #7286 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
Erin, that's awful. And go you for talking him out of it -- I don't know how often women succeed in that, it seems like the kind of thing that wouldn't be reported much.
And, his attitude is "I'm trying to HELP women!" Thanks, dude. With friends like you...
Help women by convincing men that rape is wrong, and unless the woman is giving enthusiastic consent they need to back the hell off. What was it Golda Meier said? Something about responding to a rash of rapes by giving the men a curfew?
§ ita § - May 06, 2011 5:37:46 pm PDT #7287 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
It's not him of course. It's other men that are helpless in the throes of all these sluttily dressed women. That's just how they are.
I wonder how he knows that's how they are.
Strix - May 06, 2011 5:43:10 pm PDT #7288 of 30001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger
Mansplaining rape. That's just so eyerolly I can't even roll my eyes.
Consuela, I think after the arguing and the knife picking-up and the arguing and the control top, and me sticking my hand down my pants and coming up with bloody fingers and saying "No, SMELL IT; I'm so on the rag! It's disgusting!" convinced him I was just too damn much trouble, when all he wanted, really, was some quick cash for a rock.
Convincing people I am Too Damn Much Trouble -- this could be my superpower.
amyth - May 06, 2011 5:44:46 pm PDT #7289 of 30001
And none of us deserving the cruelty or the grace -- Leonard Cohen
That's really scary, Erin. I'm glad he chose the stereo.
It's about imposing your ________ (fill in the blank: rage, powerlessness, misogyny, etc) on someone perceived as either a victim, or someone the rapist wants to place in that victim role, for whatever pathology of theirs.
V. true. Unfortunately, so often, violence begets violence, and perpetrators are very likely survivors themselves, either of child sexual abuse, rape, DV, sexual assault in prison, or some other violence that fuels that rage, sense of powerlessness, misogyny, etc. Not that that excuses their behavior, either. There are a lot of ways to respond to shit that happens to you, obvs.
ION, just found two camel crickets in my bedroom. Killed one, one got away. How am I supposed to sleep now? It will definitely jump on my face in the night. Definitely.
Jesse - May 06, 2011 5:45:21 pm PDT #7290 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
Damn, Erin.
Amy - May 06, 2011 5:45:54 pm PDT #7291 of 30001
Because books.
What is a camel cricket? And why would you say that about it jumping on your face?! God, now I'm not going to sleep.
amyth - May 06, 2011 5:46:29 pm PDT #7292 of 30001
And none of us deserving the cruelty or the grace -- Leonard Cohen
Convincing people I am Too Damn Much Trouble -- this could be my superpower.
And here I am stuck with my superpower--being able to go the whole day without peeing. It just doesn't compare.
Calli - May 06, 2011 5:46:42 pm PDT #7293 of 30001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs
It's other men that are helpless in the throes of all these sluttily dressed women.
Yeah, that's why those other men attempt to rape the sluttily dressed women the second they see them: when the women are surrounded by bouncers and cops or have ready access and ability to use 911 or weapons. Their fierce lusts never let them wait until the sluttily dressed woman is alone in a parking garage or until the roofies have taken effect. Oh, wait . . .