Oh! I know this one! 'Slaying entails certain sacrifices, blah blah blahbity blah, I'm so stuffy, gimme a scone.'

Buffy ,'Help'


Natter 68: Bork Bork Bork  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Allyson - Apr 16, 2011 8:40:36 am PDT #3587 of 30001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I'm waiting for the "bullet wound" fleshlight.


Allyson - Apr 16, 2011 8:41:12 am PDT #3588 of 30001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Also, why did I assume that everyone knows what a fleshlight is? WTF is wrong with me?


tommyrot - Apr 16, 2011 8:41:53 am PDT #3589 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

A 100 years ago, pink was for boys and blue was for girls.

Also, now I'm picturing Genera Hole in uniform....


Jessica - Apr 16, 2011 8:43:59 am PDT #3590 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

This is why (I think) it took a decade and the deaths of hundreds of children to stop vax = autism correlation/causation issue.

Unfortunately, the antivax movement brushed this off and moved straight from autism to "toxins" without missing a beat. That fight isn't over by a long shot.

(And honestly, the autism/vaccine link in people's minds is going to take generations to eradicate. All most people know is that there's some kind of vague connection that they remember hearing about somewhere - the majority of parents don't spit when they hear the name Andrew Wakefield.)


sumi - Apr 16, 2011 8:46:26 am PDT #3591 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

So what is going to have to happen is a huge influx of classic childhood diseases to kill off the children of the anti-vacs and leave a population of pro-vafc people to continue the human population?


Amy - Apr 16, 2011 8:52:24 am PDT #3592 of 30001
Because books.

All most people know is that there's some kind of vague connection that they remember hearing about somewhere - the majority of parents don't spit when they hear the name Andrew Wakefield.

This is where cultural osmosis kills me. Take a minute and actually read something, people.

It actually works with Allyson's story about the color pink, too. The example I'm giving isn't really an important societal phenomenon, but it's assumed white was always the color for wedding dresses, for instance. Not really, folks. Just because as far back as you can remember they have been doesn't mean much.


Jessica - Apr 16, 2011 8:52:58 am PDT #3593 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Hopefully it won't come to that.


Sheryl - Apr 16, 2011 8:53:49 am PDT #3594 of 30001
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Timelies all!

It is rainy and windy, we have gotten our errands done, and my mom is making chicken soup with matzo balls. Such is the state of things here.


Allyson - Apr 16, 2011 8:53:52 am PDT #3595 of 30001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I usually think of this in terms of immunodeficient people who depend on herd immunity to survive. Infants are particularly susceptible, and whooping cough can kill them.

I'm hopeful, Jessica. I've been collecting articles in odd places like yahoo news where the first sentence out of the gate is something about Wakefield being proven a fraud who took 800,000 to produce phony results for a lawsuit and how many deaths/outbreaks it has caused.

Fucker should be in jail. But the reporting is getting much better, not just about there being no link, but about the outbreaks/deaths/fraud. It's getting better. Slowly.


Jessica - Apr 16, 2011 9:02:18 am PDT #3596 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I've been collecting articles in odd places like yahoo news where the first sentence out of the gate is something about Wakefield being proven a fraud who took 800,000 to produce phony results for a lawsuit and how many deaths/outbreaks it has caused.

That is hopeful. In my community, I see a lot of "soft" antivaxism - people who have just the wrong combination of privilege and ignorance so that "too many too soon" seems like common sense. Those people are the ones who are vulnerable to the "know the risks" ads being played in Times Square right now (with helpful links to Mercola and the NVIC, grrr) and it makes me very thankful that neither of my children are immunocompromised.