It's a real burden being right so often.

Mal ,'Bushwhacked'


Natter 68: Bork Bork Bork  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


DavidS - Apr 15, 2011 7:09:27 pm PDT #3529 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Oooh! If only I could move that damn drill press on my own!

It doesn't take much muscle to redirect a spotlight from the porch to illuminate the drill press at night. ijs.


Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 15, 2011 7:11:59 pm PDT #3530 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

And hey, Toyota + chains = problem solved


aurelia - Apr 15, 2011 7:46:06 pm PDT #3531 of 30001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

I guess white people don't have to worry about being completely disenfranchised. Hey, you know what happens historically when people feel like they're completely disenfranchised with no rights within a system? Riots.

White people won't be first anyway. Riots may happen, but I think the real violence will happen when a community with an active militia is taken over.


Trudy Booth - Apr 15, 2011 7:57:50 pm PDT #3532 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I wasn't looking for a movement at all.

Too bad, kid. The loudest person who believes roughly what you believe is officially your spokesbastard.


Dana - Apr 15, 2011 8:15:04 pm PDT #3533 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Did we know that Puppycam is back?

[link]


aurelia - Apr 15, 2011 8:18:19 pm PDT #3534 of 30001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

I found out about 8 posts ago.


Typo Boy - Apr 15, 2011 8:21:35 pm PDT #3535 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

The loudest person who believes roughly what you believe is officially your spokesbastard.

Trudy, may I tag this please?


Allyson - Apr 15, 2011 8:38:21 pm PDT #3536 of 30001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Allyson, I read that. But I don't understand how you're interpreting the part you quoted...

You're usually much more rational than I am (I'm typically bananas), so I gave some thought about how I was interpreting the various texts. I think because I've been immersing myself in cognitive dissonance regarding women's issues within this group and men's reactions to the women and their complaints, I bent backwards in the other direction and read it with a huge amount of confirmation bias. The arguments frequently made (and I don't discount some degree of trolling) in defense of sexism as a biological adaptation (usually in the form of evo psych just-so stories) is the weird way sexism is justified in a movement that excoriates religion for justifying sexism because it says so in the bible/torah/koran (apparently, sexism did not exist prior to Abraham). And when people ask these justification people for citations on their claims that men have no control over sexist behavior, we usually get a PDF of a paper on how bedbugs mate. Which, not helpful.

In the last two weeks, I have diagnosed 543 internet commenters with Aspergers.

In fact, I think there needs to be some sort of godwin's law that says that the longer a discussion on women's frustration at being objectified at conferences grows, the probability of a comparison of chimp mating habits as a justification for gangrape reaches 1.

I keep catching myself, or having other people catch me in confirmation bias traps like this. It's frustrating.


Typo Boy - Apr 15, 2011 9:03:16 pm PDT #3537 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I do think sociobiology tends to degenerate into just so stories. That is, it is perfectly rational to suspect that biology affects our social behavior in the abstract. But actual attempts at this mostly degenerate into storytelling that may have literary merit but has no scientific value.

Here is JZ Meyers on that. [link]


flea - Apr 16, 2011 2:22:07 am PDT #3538 of 30001
information libertarian

The new library building on my campus had $80,000 worth of copper wire stolen from the fenced, locked, and patrolled construction site. Given the sheer volume, they had to have had a truck, so more likely an inside job than r.andom junkies.

Speaking of what junkies steal, when my apartment was robbed when I was in grad school, the cops asked me to check my freezer to see if any steaks had been stolen, as apparently this is very common. Since I was living on 10K a year, the idea that my empty freezer had been recently full of steaks cracked me up