You can't open the book of my life and jump in the middle. Like woman, I'm a mystery.

Mal ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Natter 68: Bork Bork Bork  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


meara - Sep 24, 2011 9:13:43 am PDT #28158 of 30001

Yeah, I did already tell C (when I saw her last week) that I didn't dislike her and I though he was being an ass. She'd been pretty hurt by the whole thing (understandably) and was glad other people were saying "no, he's an ass".

But I worry that continuing to be his friend (for example, we're sharing a room when we go to a dancing convention in a few weeks) is somehow supporting him being an ass. Even if I've already told him I don't. Just not sure where the line is.


Sue - Sep 24, 2011 9:16:47 am PDT #28159 of 30001
hip deep in pie

Meara, You've called him on it and called him a jackass. I think that's fine. If we broke up with a friend every time they did an asshole move (or vice versa), we'd all be very lonely. (ETA: Or maybe I have more assholish friends than y'all.)

Maybe the next time you see C (or email her, if you feel comfortable about it) tell her that you think what K did was an asshole move and you told him so. But I don't think you're responsible for your friend's actions, nor do you have to apologize for him.


javachik - Sep 24, 2011 9:20:54 am PDT #28160 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

Yeah, flea, I know what you mean. I'm familiar with the notion of people being friends with people who are known jackasses simply because they've yet to be a victim of the jackassry. And then when it finally happens to them, they're up in arms and I'm like "uh, yeah, why did you think you would be immune to the inevitable jackassry?"

On the other hand, sometimes people just don't like each other and they don't get along. If that's the case, neither is particularly being a jackass, they just have preferences. So there is no need to pick "sides".

Aaaannd, on the other hand: A long time ago, I was at a fairly large gathering for a birthday dinner for a very dear friend. My boyfriend at the time was 15 years older than me (but in better shape and more good looking than most of the younguns sitting at the table, harumph!) and he was my guest. We were sitting across the table from my dear friend's high school friend, Lauren. Lauren, in the middle of dinner, looked at me, looked at Woods, and asked me "why I was hanging with the Geritol set?" I am STILL hurt, years later, that my dear friend M didn't cut Lauren right out of her life for that incredibly rude and mean comment. Nope, they're still friends. And my stomach hurts every time I see Lauren comment on any of M's posts on Facebook.

(I know it's irrational to expect M to cut off a friendship at my wish, please don't tell me I'm being a jerk for expecting it.)


§ ita § - Sep 24, 2011 9:40:45 am PDT #28161 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

What are your first and second favorite apple pies?

Mr Kipling and the Apple Pan pie, in no particular order.

Okay, enough timewasting. Up and out of here.

BTW, I have a long history of tolerating jackasses (usually when they've been a jackass to me, though), but I do treat people coldly when they do something like that. Then it's their call to decide if cold me is worth hanging out with anymore. No skin off my nose at that point--it clearly depends on how jackassy they were to me.

Which reminds me, the last guy that was a real prick to me, I just ended up wanting people to understand my side of the story, but wasn't bothered by anyone still hanging out with him or shit.


javachik - Sep 24, 2011 9:48:53 am PDT #28162 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

NOW I WANT APPLE PIE.


Jessica - Sep 24, 2011 9:50:42 am PDT #28163 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Lauren, in the middle of dinner, looked at me, looked at Woods, and asked me "why I was hanging with the Geritol set?" I am STILL hurt, years later, that my dear friend M didn't cut Lauren right out of her life for that incredibly rude and mean comment. Nope, they're still friends. And my stomach hurts every time I see Lauren comment on any of M's posts on Facebook.

Yep, I've had that experience, more or less.

Why did I decide my project for today was entering all my credit card purchases into iBank? It turns out I don't want to do this at all!


Calli - Sep 24, 2011 10:15:53 am PDT #28164 of 30001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

What are your first and second favorite apple pies?

The Granny Smith apple, brown-sugar pie that I make and the apple-dried cherry pie that my upstairs neighbor makes.


le nubian - Sep 24, 2011 10:21:11 am PDT #28165 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Jessica,

but it will be worth it after you finish.

Said by the woman who updated ibank and has not inputted all her info yet and was supposed to be June 1.


le nubian - Sep 24, 2011 10:21:19 am PDT #28166 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Of 2011.


-t - Sep 24, 2011 10:35:43 am PDT #28167 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I've been neglecting the credit card portions of my financial records (in the sense of tracking the transactions, I've been paying the bills faithfully) for ages. I think it's in the "Due Over a Year Ago" section of my to do list. I was hoping I could just download stuff into iBank because we are all living in the future and these things happen practically by magic, right? Not that I have even tried to do that.

OTOH, since iBank knows I've been making payments to my cards but doesn't know about the charges, it thinks I have way more net worth than I actually do, which is kind of nice in a self-delusional way.