You got all kinds of learnin' and you made me look the fool without tryin', and yet here I am with a gun to your head. That's 'cause I got people with me. People who trust each other, who do for each other, and ain't always lookin' for the advantage.

Mal ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Natter 68: Bork Bork Bork  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Allyson - Sep 21, 2011 6:28:22 pm PDT #27686 of 30001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I keep calling her my niece, she's my cousin. My older cousins do that to me, and it makes me bananas. I need to stop.


sarameg - Sep 21, 2011 6:35:22 pm PDT #27687 of 30001

The thing is, it's my boss doing the hiring. Eventually, it will be me, more schooled in the social network thang, but also more jaded. And while I might be more forgiving of what I find than my current boss, eventually it will be their peers. And will they be so ready to write off the teenage postings?

Honestly, just start over with college. And then again at maybe 25. Or whenever you start worrying about employability.


dcp - Sep 21, 2011 6:36:11 pm PDT #27688 of 30001
The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know.

...given that it's relatively easy to manage your online presence...it seems really stupid not to.

And yet so many don't.

I can't even persuade my 13-year old cousin or her parents to hide their dates of birth on FB. They nod and smile when I bring it up, but they don't do it.


Allyson - Sep 21, 2011 6:39:46 pm PDT #27689 of 30001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I'm glad that all my crazy posting happened in poorly photocopied punk rock zines back in the day.


Allyson - Sep 21, 2011 6:42:48 pm PDT #27690 of 30001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

We even got a good review in maximum rocknroll back when Kathleen Hanna was still in Bikini Kill and chicks were scrawling RAPE on their abs at queercore shows.


Allyson - Sep 21, 2011 6:44:07 pm PDT #27691 of 30001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Dear god I am old.


Kat - Sep 21, 2011 6:45:41 pm PDT #27692 of 30001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Honestly, just start over with college. And then again at maybe 25. Or whenever you start worrying about employability.

I think that this seems like an overreaction.

If I told you that you had to delete everything here every 4 years to start over, in order to remain employable, you'd probably think that you had enough cover that it isn't necessary. Or that it's too extreme. I'd agree.

And if someone were to say that to me, I'd be offended, as if you want me to always be a tabla rasa in a way that erases my history.

What is more troubling for me about Allyson's cousin is not that she posts this shit and needs to lock it down, but that she feels compelled to come across as a bimbo instead of intelligent. That need to downplay actual aptitude that teen girls sometimes feel is just fucking depressing.


Allyson - Sep 21, 2011 6:52:27 pm PDT #27693 of 30001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

she feels compelled to come across as a bimbo instead of intelligent

I don't know how to begin with that part. She thinks she's just expressing herself honestly. But she isn't. She expressing what she thinks is sexy and edgy to other people. However, most of the equally dumbass-sounding friends on her wall have been congratulating her on her last academic success. So they all seem to know that she's bright, academically.


sarameg - Sep 21, 2011 6:56:38 pm PDT #27694 of 30001

I'm speaking for myself. I wouldn't want my teen journals (god, can't yet bear to read them) or interactions public when I applied for college. Nor most of the angst of the years leading up to getting my first job. Hell, I wish I'd kept the next decade more private. I won't retract any of it, I'll own up, but. I left a lot more out than I see my teen sharing.


Kat - Sep 21, 2011 6:56:56 pm PDT #27695 of 30001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Allyson, I am having clarity issues. Wanting to put up a front of edginess based on sex and drugs is something I see way too often with my students, so I guess I meant the bimbo comment as what I see with them.

It kills me that I'll have NHS students and AP students, mostly girls, trying to create an image of rampant sexuality and drug abuse as a way to take the "stink" of academic achievement off of them.

And I am sure I was guilty of it too in high school: look! I can be a valedictorian AND promiscuous! But now it always makes me sad.