You're nice, and you're funny and you don't smoke, and okay, werewolf, but that's not all the time. I mean, three days out of the month, I'm not much fun to be around, either.

Willow ,'Get It Done'


Natter 68: Bork Bork Bork  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Zenkitty - Sep 16, 2011 7:06:37 am PDT #26598 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

12 Labors of Hercules, yo. Stealing the meat-eating mares of Somebody. Being a fan of both horses and the dark sides of things, I knew horses could be trained to eat meat, and apparently thrive on it. I hadn't read about the man-eating horse of India before, though. That sounds to me less like a horse trained or defaulting to eating meat, and more like a stallion driven mad by a long journey in a dark ship's hold, with bad food and possibly bad treatment during and after. I can easily imagine such a tortured horse going crazy and wanting to stomp to death every human he saw. Anyone who's ever seen an angry frightened horse has no doubt they can be scary and dangerous. I mean, does anyone really believe that horses are just timid prey animals with no will of their own? Humans enslaved them and especially since the industrial revolution have treated them rather badly overall, not that there aren't beloved and well-treated horses, of course -- but they can't live in their natural circumstances. We don't let them live in herds, we don't even let them breed normally. No wonder most work horses have broken spirits and some horses just go batshit. I bought his book; I hope a lot of people do.

I do wonder about this though - I've been told that mares who eat a high-protein diet produce very tough amniotic sacs, and humans have to cut them open to get the foals out. Wouldn't mares who ate meat regularly do the same? Would they understand that they had to tear the sac open for their baby? Or could the foal actually do that if left alone? Not an experiment I'd like to run, but I wonder.


zuisa - Sep 16, 2011 7:09:14 am PDT #26599 of 30001
call me jacki; zuisa is an internet nick from ancient times =)

Cash, that's terrible. I'm so sorry.


Ginger - Sep 16, 2011 7:09:29 am PDT #26600 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

I'm sorry, Cash. This country sucks at dealing with the mentally ill.


Frankenbuddha - Sep 16, 2011 7:10:25 am PDT #26601 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Words fail, Cash. I just hope he gets back to some kind of treatment soon.


Zenkitty - Sep 16, 2011 7:11:13 am PDT #26602 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Apparently, he was able to convince the doctor that he was "stable" by acting appropriately. He refused all mental health treatment and meds.

Oh, jesus, Cash. This is exactly what happened with my ex. How does a doctor who KNOWS he has schizophrenia get fooled by him acting stable, to let him leave alone without meds? I am outraged and scared on your behalf. How does a previously hospitalized schizophrenic patient get to refuse meds, anyway? That alone is proof that he isn't thinking straight. I hope you all can get him back into a hospital with no trauma!


Cashmere - Sep 16, 2011 7:12:21 am PDT #26603 of 30001
Now tagless for your comfort.

This and this is the kind of stuff that happens when violent, paranoid schizophrenics are allowed to go off meds and not supervised.

I hate not being able to help him.


Cashmere - Sep 16, 2011 7:13:58 am PDT #26604 of 30001
Now tagless for your comfort.

Zen, it was a different doctor in the in-patient unit. The doc in the out-patient unit diagnosed him 20 years ago and knows him. But they didn't bother to ask him.

The social worker admitted they would be seeing him again soon. IF they're lucky.


Sue - Sep 16, 2011 7:18:26 am PDT #26605 of 30001
hip deep in pie

I'm so sorry Cash. I hope he gets treatment soon.


Strix - Sep 16, 2011 7:18:37 am PDT #26606 of 30001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Cash, I'm SO sorry to hear that.

Ok, Erin's talk of Suzi and Kelly make me feel like I'm in the wrong place. I should be with her sipping wine.

Get in your car right NOW, missy, and you can be here in, um, 7 hours?

I'll save some wine for you!

Must go clean and make brownie now. Have been cleaning on and off for last 4 days, but the pet hair, it is eternal. I JUST MOPPED! Stop SHEDDING, GODDAMMIT.


§ ita § - Sep 16, 2011 7:20:24 am PDT #26607 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

How often do schizophrenics stop needing medication? I mean, should that even be a common consideration?