But if the world doesn't end, I'm gonna need a note.

Cordelia ,'Potential'


Natter 68: Bork Bork Bork  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Calli - Sep 09, 2011 11:22:53 am PDT #25147 of 30001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

The water system has similar issues. Lots of cities are past 100 years old on large sections of the water and sewer lines, and even cast iron doesn't last forever.

My current town is dealing with that. The main road is in mid-tear up so they can replace the ancient, falling-to-ruin sewage lines beneath them. At least one business has gone under because the construction made it difficult for people to drive there. And unexpected problems stemming from the the age and disrepair of the lines meant that construction on the first section took over twice as long as expected.

There's also a busted sewage line behind some old businesses that's falling into limbo. Apparently it was put in privately, many decades ago, and the water and sewage company says they have neither access rights to nor responsibility for it. The business owners are saying they've been paying for sewage treatment as part of their water bill (which, to be fair, they have, but probably for the sewage that went from the private line into the public line, and thence to the treatment plant). Meanwhile, the raw sewage keeps seeping into the world, untreated and unclaimed.

Utilities may not be as politically sexy as being able to claim you've cut violent crime in half or lured millions in business to your town. But damn they're noticeable when they stop working.


Jesse - Sep 09, 2011 11:26:51 am PDT #25148 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Just FYI to other people who might have an issue: I have queued up Good Stuff with posts through the weekend, because I'm not sure when I'll be able to get back on tumblr -- my dash was already full of 9/11 pictures just now. FYI.

But Good Stuff will remain Safe Space, of course.


Steph L. - Sep 09, 2011 11:31:23 am PDT #25149 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

my dash was already full of 9/11 pictures just now. FYI.

Man, our local news websites have been slinging 9/11 pictures up all week, and it bothers *me* to suddenly see them with no warning, which made me think, DAMN, if it's bothering *me,* it's got to be so much worse for people directly affected by it.

Personally, I'm trying to avoid all the "anniversary" stuff as much as humanly possible. Some years on 9/11 I've re-read the Natter thread from that day, but I'm not even sure I want to do that this year.


smonster - Sep 09, 2011 11:33:29 am PDT #25150 of 30001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

At least one business has gone under

The Dog is gone? Also, where's the private line you're talking about?

In other relevant questions, can I go home yet?

And here is possibly the oddest first world problem I have yet to face: I volunteered to put on a safety harness at a fall protection training this morning, and at the end the trainer gave me the most ridiculously patriotic hard hat I've ever seen. There's a screaming eagle on the front with "United States of America" on a banner underneath it, and rippling flags down the sides. It's a BADASS hard hat, but I don't know that I can bring myself to wear it. I can't decide whether to subvert it with stickers or give it to someone who will appreciate the "America, fuck yeah!!" nature of it.


Ginger - Sep 09, 2011 11:35:05 am PDT #25151 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Toddson, the people in the industry found it ironic too, but the laughter was somewhat muted by the billions it cost to meet the NRC regulations that came out of the Brown's Ferry Fire.

My not-then-ex drove an unmarked Crown Vic with a police package as a detective. That car could drive on anything and survive just about anything except hitting a deer at 100 mph. Deer have been poorly educated about blue lights and sirens. The ex didn't have a scratch, though.


Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 09, 2011 11:35:11 am PDT #25152 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Yeah, I opened some of this week's comics to find 911 tributes in the back and thought "If this is making me feel weirded out, what's the reaction of New Yorkers or people who knew someone that died?"

I'm crossing my fingers that places I eat out this weekend won't be serving meals on commemorative plates or somesuch.


javachik - Sep 09, 2011 11:38:01 am PDT #25153 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

My cousin died in the Pentagon that day and I know I personally don't want to read or see any of the tributes. I am wondering how my New Yorker houseguest would like to spend that day.

ETA, it's not that I don't want to read or see anything about it. I just get so sad and also tired of the bombarding of images, headlines, etc.


Jesse - Sep 09, 2011 11:38:37 am PDT #25154 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

There's a screaming eagle on the front with "United States of America" on a banner underneath it, and rippling flags down the sides. It's a BADASS hard hat, but I don't know that I can bring myself to wear it. I can't decide whether to subvert it with stickers or give it to someone who will appreciate the "America, fuck yeah!!" nature of it.

I'm not going to lie, I feel like just the fact of you wearing it subverts it in the BEST POSSIBLE "America, fuck yeah!!" way.

Because seriously.


flea - Sep 09, 2011 11:39:09 am PDT #25155 of 30001
information libertarian

I decided I should just wallow in 9/11 and get it over with today. So [spoiler fonted for those avoiding it] I tracked down my photo of me in front of Lower Manhattan from Ellis Island on Sept. 9, 2001, reread Natter and sars from Tomato Nation's post about Don, and found Peter Jennings on YouTube from when the tower fell, and now I'm done.


Jesse - Sep 09, 2011 11:39:13 am PDT #25156 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I'm going to the movies, possibly buying a new shower curtain! Exciting.