May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

Mal ,'Bushwhacked'


Natter 68: Bork Bork Bork  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


DavidS - Aug 29, 2011 5:44:42 pm PDT #22936 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

But the fact that they used to treat cervical cancer by packing radium into the vagina and then sewing it in place?

The most effective treatment of my mother's cancer wasn't that different. They inserted thin hollow tubes around the tumor and put radium pellets into the tubes and exposed it to very focused radiation. Same idea but more refined.


Jessica - Aug 29, 2011 5:46:53 pm PDT #22937 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

with a regiment of juice fasts and daily colonics, people cure cancer or at least prolongs terminal cancer patient's lives.

The assumption being that people with terminal cancer want to spend more of their remaining time getting daily colonics?

Have any of you read The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks?

It's on my list! But no, not yet.


§ ita § - Aug 29, 2011 5:47:26 pm PDT #22938 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I just bought the Henrietta Lacks book, Kat. I've been reading all up about her on the internet, and keep telling people at work about her (there's a tentative parallel to a user ID we use for testing without the user's knowledge). Except he's not HeLa. He's HaNa.


Sophia Brooks - Aug 29, 2011 6:15:38 pm PDT #22939 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I read the HeLa book, and I found most fascinating the dynamics between the author and the family. It was a nice change from the "white person swoops in and saves the black people" narrative.

I already knew about that cancer treatment because I am pretty sure that Anais Nin had the same treatment, and at one point I actually read all of her diaries.

ETA: every time I think about HeLa I get earwormed with Hey Ya!


Kat - Aug 29, 2011 6:17:44 pm PDT #22940 of 30001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Is HaNa is first two initials of first and last name, ita?

I cannot recommend Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks highly enough. It's just so well done and so fascinating. I read it from the library on my Nook and then I bought a hardcopy of the paperback. I am thinking of getting a class set and having my seniors read it as a their book from my class.

The assumption being that people with terminal cancer want to spend more of their remaining time getting daily colonics?

I don't know. I am skeptical about cleanses to begin with. I get the point, but I kinda think it's bunk. Essentially at We Care, you do a juice fast for 4 days with daily colonics and then you break your fast with a dehydrated rice cracker and some lemon. My yoga teacher's friend basically felt like that cracker was the best thing she's ever eaten. And she left having seen the light on how great cleanses are so now she wants to be a raw food vegan. Sigh.


smonster - Aug 29, 2011 6:18:43 pm PDT #22941 of 30001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Sophia, this is kind of tangential, but an acquaintance of mine who works in a costume shop at my former place of employment has a blog you might find interesting: [link] Lots of detailed info on the rigs she makes, and hats, and safety, and reducing the water needed for dying, and all kinds of things. She teaches MFA students, among other things.


Kat - Aug 29, 2011 6:18:48 pm PDT #22942 of 30001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

I found most fascinating the dynamics between the author and the family. It was a nice change from the "white person swoops in and saves the black people" narrative.

Absolutely. And the deep suspicion the family had about Skloot herself. And the insane duration of the relationship. So much of it is riveting.


Sophia Brooks - Aug 29, 2011 6:24:45 pm PDT #22943 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Also, David, thank you for the nice comment on my "mastery". I have been feeling more and more that what I have to learn now has more to do with sharing what I know and how I do that than learning new skills, although there are certainly skills that I lack. But as a broad-based costume person, I know at least a little bit about how to do a lot of things. And if I just keep doing those things and don't share them, I am doing my students a disservice.


Sophia Brooks - Aug 29, 2011 6:26:15 pm PDT #22944 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Sophia, this is kind of tangential, but an acquaintance of mine who works in a costume shop at my former place of employment has a blog you might find interesting: [link] Lots of detailed info on the rigs she makes, and hats, and safety, and reducing the water needed for dying, and all kinds of things. She teaches MFA students, among other things.

Thank you! I will check it out! It looks really nteresting.


§ ita § - Aug 29, 2011 6:27:51 pm PDT #22945 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Is HaNa is first two initials of first and last name, ita?

Yup. His login ID is first name and two initials of his last name, so it's not much of a stretch.

I think I have a chocolate addiction.