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Natter 68: Bork Bork Bork  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Strix - Aug 16, 2011 6:24:29 am PDT #20606 of 30001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Amy, that's awesome! I'm so pleased for you!

That's a pretty interesting study, ita, but I'd like to know more about it.

Also, I find that IRL and in a game situation (outside of the whole attractiveness issue), personality changes a bit.

I am a pretty nice person, but I tend not to play games a lot, because I either (a) don't like them and thus don't care or (b) like trivia games, I get hypercomptetive and want to win.

However, I probably fail at this study, because I am average in looks, below average if one factors in in that I am overweight, I have ethics that I don't feel relate to my looks at all, but to my intellectual development, and I feel that attractiveness goes beyond symmetry.

I'm not that pretty in pix, but F2F, people find me more attractive.

There are so many variables, how can you control them all?


Sophia Brooks - Aug 16, 2011 7:00:03 am PDT #20607 of 30001
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Is anyone here an accountant?

I have been given a formula by big!boss to see how many students a class needs before the class breaks even. It is Instructor's Salary X 1.5 divided by cost of class=number of students to break even. Does that even make sense?


Nora Deirdre - Aug 16, 2011 7:03:26 am PDT #20608 of 30001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

I can look into my Higher Ed finance notes, but they're home and it sounds like you need it now... I think it does make sense, though, the 1.5 probably is the overhead amount, which would need to be included in any expense analysis.


-t - Aug 16, 2011 7:06:06 am PDT #20609 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Cost of class meaning cost to each student who takes it? Assuming that 1.5xSalary is what it costs the school to put on the class, then yes, that makes sense.

Breakeven = Fixed costs/(price - variable costs).


Sophia Brooks - Aug 16, 2011 7:07:52 am PDT #20610 of 30001
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Thanks Nora!

The part I don't understand is how the instructor's salary makes any difference in the overhead. Wouldn't that be determined by things like the length of the class, how much IT support the class needs, how much I work to advertise the class, if we have brochure printed etc, etc. We have some VERY highly paid instructors that I do nothing for, and some very low paid instructors that I am practically spending my life holding their hand.


hippocampus - Aug 16, 2011 7:08:46 am PDT #20611 of 30001
not your mom's socks.

Do the instructors teach more than one class?


Sophia Brooks - Aug 16, 2011 7:11:49 am PDT #20612 of 30001
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Cost of class meaning cost to each student who takes it?

Yes. So I guess the formula makes sense, I just don't necessarily agree that the "overhead" should be that high. Our overhead rate at the University is 52 percent.

Do the instructors teach more than one class?

No- the ones that have full or part time appointments we pay anyway and run the class anyway (we did not used to, they used to be able to teach lifelong learning classes to get extra income, but the University prohibited that.


-t - Aug 16, 2011 7:20:46 am PDT #20613 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Breakeven calculations are usually just approximations, Sophia, sort of a rule of thumb for making quick decisions for the future, not real analysis of what costs/profits have actually been.


-t - Aug 16, 2011 7:25:18 am PDT #20614 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I just don't necessarily agree that the "overhead" should be that high. Our overhead rate at the University is 52 percent.

Right, so the cost of putting on the class is Instructor Salary + Overhead, and overhead rate is 52% so that's Salary + 0.52 Salary is approximately 1.5xSalary. It may not be actually correct, but it lines up with University accounting.


Sophia Brooks - Aug 16, 2011 7:26:26 am PDT #20615 of 30001
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Breakeven calculations are usually just approximations, Sophia, sort of a rule of thumb for making quick decisions for the future, not real analysis of what costs/profits have actually been.

Thank you! That makes sense. I am not sure the associate dean gets this because she is always saying we aren't making any money based on this calculation, but when you subtract our expenses and overhead from the income, we always show a positive number.