Mal: Zoe, why do I have a wife? Jayne: You got a wife? All I got is that dumbass stick sounds like its raining. How come you got a wife?

'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Natter 68: Bork Bork Bork  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Cass - Jun 09, 2011 6:15:41 pm PDT #12165 of 30001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

In the article I read, the final line was something like "The marten is a member of the weasel family."

It was factual!


DavidS - Jun 09, 2011 6:17:13 pm PDT #12166 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

ita, Eva Mendes is Cuban....so not really white. She grew up in Glendale and still lives there.

Having grown up in South Florida I would note that some Cubans are white and some are black.

Basically, the white Cubans that came over after Castro's takeoer were the middle and upper middle class pre-revolution. While many Cubans still in Cuba or the ones that came over as Marielitos are black.

If you look at the Cuban baseball team, they're mostly black and Hispanic.

Which as an ex-HR person, I will note that Hispanic on your EEO reports is broken down into two categories nowadays with white and black categories.


§ ita § - Jun 09, 2011 6:26:03 pm PDT #12167 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Eva Mendes is Cuban....so not really white

Yeah, she can be white and Cuban. I didn't know if she was, though.

Cameron Diaz is pretty white. Isn't she supposed to be Cuban?

I have been feeling all Hulk SMASH today, so it makes sense that Feminist Hulk and I are on a wavelength.


Kat - Jun 09, 2011 6:27:07 pm PDT #12168 of 30001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

I will note that Hispanic on your EEO reports is broken down into two categories nowadays with white and black categories.

Yes. But I'd argue that there is another missing category. In real life, she has a darker a complexion than both ita or me or my ex-boyfriend Malik (father was a Black Panther, yet he had a complexion lighter than my mother). I'd be hard pressed to say she was white Cuban.

Also, I'm always DEEPLY amused when my students apply for Cal States or UCs and they have to designate a race other than hispanic. Extreme indignity follows.


Kat - Jun 09, 2011 6:27:50 pm PDT #12169 of 30001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Cameron Diaz is pretty white. Isn't she supposed to be Cuban?

Yes. Definitely more white Cuban than Eva Mendes.


sarameg - Jun 09, 2011 6:29:42 pm PDT #12170 of 30001

I just spent 4 hours drinking wine with my neighbors. A lot of wine. We might have migrated to the porch in a really bad thunderstorm to admire it because it was that awesome and SO FUCKING MUCH COOLER. It really was all of that.

I might hate tomorrow morning, but tonight was awesome.

And I wonder if my neighbor's boyfriend is at all creeped out that he has a fanclub. We don't want him for a boyfriend, really. But we all think he is the gold standard of boyfriends, and think FINALLY after many frogs with many warts, neighbor S has hit the jackpot. Even she's in shock, a year into it. He's already ruined it for one now-ex-boyfriend...


DavidS - Jun 09, 2011 6:32:32 pm PDT #12171 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Most of the Cubans I went to high school with had dark complexions and black hair. They looked fairly Mediterranean. Swarthy, I guess.


§ ita § - Jun 09, 2011 6:38:05 pm PDT #12172 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Eva's dark enough to sleep with Will Smith characters without note. Cameron is definitely not.


SuziQ - Jun 09, 2011 6:43:12 pm PDT #12173 of 30001
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

Being half-Iranian, I've felt like there should be a box other than white for me to check. My anglo genes are extremely strong, so I look white-white, but it feels strange every time I check white.


DavidS - Jun 09, 2011 6:43:42 pm PDT #12174 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Eva's dark enough to sleep with Will Smith characters without note. Cameron is definitely not.

Your color spectrum is more refined than mine. Eva registers as White Girl to me. So there's not more or less of a deal with her getting jiggy with Will than Cameron from my perspective.