Lorne: Snakes? Uh-huh. And they came out of your what? Okay. Okay, well, did they get up there themselves or is this part of a, you know, a thing? No, I'm not judging...Do we fight snakes? Angel: Only if they're giant. Or demons. Or giant demons. Are they giant demon snakes? Lorne: Well, unless this guy's 30 feet tall, I'm thinking they're of the garden variety.

'Lineage'


Natter 68: Bork Bork Bork  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


brenda m - Jun 09, 2011 2:29:46 pm PDT #12138 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Huh. Having gone to public schools first in NYC and then in Milwaukee, it wasn't until I went to university that I was in a majority white school. I sometimes forget that that's not the norm. My world now is a lot whiter than it was growing up, actually.


Hil R. - Jun 09, 2011 2:36:35 pm PDT #12139 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

The overlap between race and ethnicity gets confusing. Like, a lot of the reaction to stuff like "Jersey Shore," I can't call it racist, because Italians aren't a race, but "prejudiced" seems like too general a term -- talking about how much you hate those fucking Guidos seems more specific than prejudice.

I was momentarily puzzled when I was talking to someone from Germany and she used the word racism to refer to bias against Jews, but since then, I've noticed that usage a few times in things from a few different European countries.


Jesse - Jun 09, 2011 2:39:04 pm PDT #12140 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I definitely read a thing in college about how Italians became white -- southern Mediterraneans were definitely not considered the same as northern Europeans.


Hil R. - Jun 09, 2011 2:46:10 pm PDT #12141 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Older immigration papers have separate sections for "race" and "color." Most of my ancestors are listed as Hebrew for race and white for color. Some of them also have a space for "complexion," but that seems like it was pretty subjective, since I've found the same person, who went in and out of the country multiple times before becoming a citizen and thus had to fill out immigration forms each time, listed as nearly all of the available options at least once.


Cass - Jun 09, 2011 3:04:44 pm PDT #12142 of 30001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Some of them also have a space for "complexion," but that seems like it was pretty subjective

Given that I am trying to buy foundation, I'd say yes. Rassenfrassen.

OK, creepy solicitor moment: someone voting canvasser just knocked on my door and addressed me BY NAME. Freaked me out so much I just shut the door. Do NOT want strangers WHO KNOW WHERE I LIVE addressing me by name.

ACK! DO NOT WANT! KILL THEM WITH FIRE! Um, I have issues. And shutting the door on them is probably better than the fire thing.


Allyson - Jun 09, 2011 3:05:50 pm PDT #12143 of 30001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

My nephew has to keep a journal for school and write one thing every day. Today's entry:

When I am 100 years old I will be all wrinkley. I will live at the Take Care Center and everybody will have to take care of me. I won't be able to take the dog for a walk because I will have a cane.


brenda m - Jun 09, 2011 3:08:15 pm PDT #12144 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

How do I get in on this Take Care Center thing? Some dog walk help wouldn't hurt either.


Jesse - Jun 09, 2011 3:09:07 pm PDT #12145 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Given that I am trying to buy foundation, I'd say yes. Rassenfrassen.

I hear CVS takes returns, but have not tested this myself. Of course, after breaking down and buying pricey foundation at Sephora recently, I realize I can buy a couple of drugstore mistakes and still come out ahead financially....


DawnK - Jun 09, 2011 3:12:26 pm PDT #12146 of 30001
giraffe mode

Allyson, that's so cute! We are moving my MiL into assisted living tomorrow and I think I will start calling it "the Take Care Center", it is a pretty apt description.


Allyson - Jun 09, 2011 3:14:44 pm PDT #12147 of 30001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

My sister in law says that he's basically living in a take care center except he doesn't have wrinkles and a cane.