See how I'm not punching him? I think I've grown.

Mal ,'Shindig'


Natter 68: Bork Bork Bork  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Steph L. - Jun 05, 2011 3:47:16 pm PDT #11475 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I didn't see the restaurant scene as an indication of asexuality as much as awkward heterosexuality making sure no one gets any ideas.

I meant there was a cut scene that expanded on the conversation, not the scene as it was shown in the US. Sorry if I was unclear. I'm looking for a link.


§ ita § - Jun 05, 2011 3:54:01 pm PDT #11476 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

This conversation, Steph?


Steph L. - Jun 05, 2011 4:06:43 pm PDT #11477 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Sorry; the clip I'm thinking of is from the unaired pilot. Which I understand will be dismissed by people as not canon (though, honestly, I still get total asexual, possibly -- *possibly* -- homoromantic, from Cumberbatch!Sherlock). That said, clip: [link] (the clip starts with the scene from the unaired pilot and then goes to the aired scene from "A Study in Pink," which you linked to, ita).

I think "I'm really not looking for *any* kind of..." (from "A Study in Pink" and from the unaired pilot [delivered with a more emphatic inflection on the "any" in the unaired clip]) can be fairly interpreted as asexual, particularly when paired with "I'm married to my work," and "Not really my area" as a reply to the query as to whether he has a girlfriend.

Sure, "Not really my area" could be closeted gay!Sherlock trying to dodge the issue of his homosexuality, but I just don't think a closeted gay!Sherlock would follow that up by telling Watson that his (Watson's) interest in Sherlock is misplaced.

Therefore, if "not my area" does *not* = gay!Sherlock, it reads as asexual to me. Particularly on the delivery. It's very curt and dismissive, and I think gay!Sherlock would deliver "not my area" with more of an innuendo.

Back to the unaired pilot: the "everything else is transport" line reads, to me, as more dismissal of physical, bodily needs. And since the context is relationships/sex, it reads more specifically to me as dismissal of sexual relationships.


Steph L. - Jun 05, 2011 4:10:00 pm PDT #11478 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

And, goodness, those clips just reminded me of what a lovely voice Cumberbatch has. Yum.


§ ita § - Jun 05, 2011 4:13:49 pm PDT #11479 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The way he dismissed girlfriends so flatly, though, and not boyfriends, leaves homo something open for me, whether it be sexual or romantic. And in a way his dissuasion of Watson isn't him saying he doesn't swing that way either, but more sounds like he doesn't want to.

So definitely not heterosexual of any level of awkwardness, but his degree of obsession with Watson is beyond normal friendship. So I'd have to call it something.

Creepy sweatshirt is always watching you.


Steph L. - Jun 05, 2011 4:15:17 pm PDT #11480 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

The way he dismissed girlfriends so flatly, though, and not boyfriends, leaves homo something open for me, whether it be sexual or romantic.

I'd buy homoromantic, though more specifically my money is on Watsonromantic.


Steph L. - Jun 05, 2011 4:16:18 pm PDT #11481 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Creepy sweatshirt is always watching you.

Aaaaaaa! Even *I* wouldn't wear that!


billytea - Jun 05, 2011 4:17:24 pm PDT #11482 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Aaaaaaa! Even *I* wouldn't wear that!

But it's the only way for it not to watch you!


Amy - Jun 05, 2011 4:22:54 pm PDT #11483 of 30001
Because books.

Hey, Tep, do you remember where that found photo site is, that you used for GWW way back? (And I loved.)


Steph L. - Jun 05, 2011 4:29:54 pm PDT #11484 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I bet I can find it. Give me a minute.