Mercy is the mark of a great man. Guess I'm just a good man. Well, I'm all right.

Mal ,'Shindig'


Natter 68: Bork Bork Bork  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Cashmere - Jun 02, 2011 5:26:11 am PDT #10912 of 30001
Now tagless for your comfort.

I have lots of onerous tasks today. I have house guests coming to watch roller derby on Saturday and I have to actually prepare to bout, as well. Then there is end of school stuff and getting Minvan Morrison into the shop to get the A/C recharged.


Cashmere - Jun 02, 2011 5:27:45 am PDT #10913 of 30001
Now tagless for your comfort.

Crap. I also have to box up our PS3 to send to Sony to figure out what is wrong with it. I'm going to lose all our movies and games because I didn't back up. Feh.


Jesse - Jun 02, 2011 5:30:31 am PDT #10914 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

A friend of mine who had some minor success in the comic book field passed on this bit of wisdom about becoming a success: you have to have at least 2 of these three qualities: be good, be fast, be nice.

I have a similar theory about becoming a pop star or similar -- you need at least three of the following: talent, looks, determination, and luck.


lisah - Jun 02, 2011 5:36:28 am PDT #10915 of 30001
Punishingly Intricate

If you don't want to have a plan B, fine. But then I really hope that no one else is depending on you, and that the only life you're gambling with is your own.

SERIOUSLY! I've been catching up and, really, Jilli (and a few others) pretty much says everything I think. Anyway, I admire people who take care of their business and manage to do their art much more than people who think their ART is so important that they don't have to TCB.

you need at least three of the following: talent, looks, determination, and luck.

I think you pretty much always need luck. Luck often meaning meeting the right people.


Jesse - Jun 02, 2011 5:39:50 am PDT #10916 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Absolutely -- you always need luck. But maybe not talent if you're determined enough!


lisah - Jun 02, 2011 5:41:18 am PDT #10917 of 30001
Punishingly Intricate

I think you're right, Jesse!


msbelle - Jun 02, 2011 5:42:35 am PDT #10918 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Dear body, forgetting one pill in the morning should not make me cry over nothing. Please do not be freaking out. Chill the fuck out and stabslize yourself. No love, me.


tommyrot - Jun 02, 2011 5:44:35 am PDT #10919 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

you need at least three of the following: talent, looks, determination, and luck.

And a pact with Satan.


Tom Scola - Jun 02, 2011 5:45:26 am PDT #10920 of 30001
hwæt

Which 3 does Gaga have?


Steph L. - Jun 02, 2011 5:46:01 am PDT #10921 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

How is being supported by your wife for five years not a Plan B?

Right? It's a parasitic Plan B, but a Plan B nonetheless. If you are (1) not succeeding at Your Great And Super Special Art, yet you are still (2) eating and have a place to live, you have a Plan B. It might not be a Plan B where you choose to work at something else, but it's still a Plan B. Right up until your wife says "Get a job, seriously, or move the hell out. The mime gig is NEVER going to happen."

A friend of mine who had some minor success in the comic book field

Chatty!co-worker's dream since childhood has been to be an artist for DC or Marvel. He also happens to be married with a child. His priority is his supporting his family, and he works on his art in his spare time.

He also recently got a freelance gig with Marvel.

So, you know, the whole deal where Artists DON'T Get Day Jobs Oh Mah Gawd -- not always true.

But I guess what it comes down to is what the Great And Talented Potential Artist's priorities are. They can put Their Great Potential Art before everything else, but they might lose everything else along the way. And if that's what they're willing to do, cool. But if that means you might bankrupt your spouse who's supporting you, if it means you might destroy your marriage because your spouse can't take it any more, you might want to be 110% goddamn sure that your spouse knows *before* the wedding that Your Great Potential Art is more important than he/she is.