It's not like she blew me off. She just left with another guy, that's all.

Riley ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Natter 67: Overriding Vetoes  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, nail polish, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


lisah - Oct 19, 2010 5:17:42 pm PDT #653 of 30001
Punishingly Intricate

Have you heard or read Mike Birbiglia, Lisa? He has some crazy fucking stories about his sleep disorder.

Oh! I've heard of him but I'm not sure I've heard him talk about that. It's really gotten bad in the last year or so. I think it's exasperated by not getting enough sleep plus stress.


Nicole - Oct 19, 2010 5:18:50 pm PDT #654 of 30001
I'm getting the pig!

I have melatonin, valerian and magnesium on hand and they sometimes help me with reaching that drowsy phase so I can fall asleep. If nothing else is working and I'm still awake after midnight, my fail safe of late has been a trip to the 24 hr gym for a 20 minute swim. It's almost certain that I'll fall right to sleep once I get home and back in bed.

Finally watched Mad Men tonight. After I was accidentally spoiled for the big twist, yes, but still enjoyable.


Steph L. - Oct 19, 2010 5:20:01 pm PDT #655 of 30001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

I'm jealous of people who go straight to sleep. I can't do that without drugs. Sometimes I'll fall asleep on my own after an hour or so, or I'll stay awake half the night staring at the ceiling.

I used to be able to fall asleep within minutes (or less) of my head hitting the pillow. And I read somewhere that that's a sign of a chronic sleep deficit, but since I had been that way my entire life, I think that maybe it *might* be a sign of a chronic sleep deficit for *some* people, *some* of the time, but not always.

Now I need drugs to fall asleep. I wish I could regain the beautiful sleep of my pre-30s life. I would fall asleep quickly, if I woke up it was just to pee (and I would make my way to the bathroom and back in a barely-awake haze), and then sleep soundly until maybe 3 minutes before my alarm, when I would awaken refreshed.

No, seriously. Every goddamn night.

Now it's a mockery involving drugs and bug-eyed resentful staring at the clock at 3:57 a.m., and being bludgeoned awake by the alarm.

Bah.


Amy - Oct 19, 2010 5:20:27 pm PDT #656 of 30001
Because books.

Have you heard or read Mike Birbiglia, Lisa?

Is that the sleepwalking guy who, like, jumped out a window and stuff?


Jesse - Oct 19, 2010 5:20:32 pm PDT #657 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Oh! I've heard of him but I'm not sure I've heard him talk about that.

Listen to him on the rerun This American Life from last week. But don't listen to the part about bugs, or you'll never sleep again.


Jesse - Oct 19, 2010 5:21:19 pm PDT #658 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Is that the sleepwalking guy who, like, jumped out a window and stuff?

Yep. Our own (former) Rio called his book "sadlarious," which sounds about right.


Atropa - Oct 19, 2010 5:22:50 pm PDT #659 of 30001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

I'm jealous of people who go straight to sleep. I can't do that without drugs. Sometimes I'll fall asleep on my own after an hour or so, or I'll stay awake half the night staring at the ceiling.

I've had some form of insomnia all my life; there has always been at least two nights a week (and never the same two) where I would be wide awake until 3 or 4 AM. It's just gotten worse as I've gotten older.


Steph L. - Oct 19, 2010 5:24:15 pm PDT #660 of 30001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

When I visited my brother in September, I found that one glass of Wild Turkey put me to sleep like magic. I just really don't see that as a healthy every-night option, y'know?


Atropa - Oct 19, 2010 5:26:40 pm PDT #661 of 30001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

When I visited my brother in September, I found that one glass of Wild Turkey put me to sleep like magic. I just really don't see that as a healthy every-night option, y'know?

How big a glass? Because really, I don't see that as any worse than .5mg of Ambien or something.


§ ita § - Oct 19, 2010 5:26:55 pm PDT #662 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

then sleep soundly until maybe 3 minutes before my alarm, when I would awaken refreshed.

Oh, god, that used to be me. Now, with the trazadone I've been actively and OOCly mad at the alarm clock every morning. Even with the Ambien, that never happened (I would wake up before it, or wake up cleanly). And before the sleep disorder, I would fall asleep in under 30 minutes, and always be up shortly before the alarm. Good god, I miss those days.

Today I realised that "taking meds at 6" means that on school nights I can have no life. Hell, today it was just a messy ride home and I slid in at 6. And that was with working what doesn't even count as a late night.