Jayne (Husband): Oh, I think you might wanna reconsider that last part. See, I married me a powerful ugly creature. Mal (Wife): How can you say that? How can you shame me in front of new people? Jayne (Husband): If I could make you purtier, I would. Mal (Wife): You are not the man I met a year ago.

'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Natter 67: Overriding Vetoes  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, nail polish, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Scrappy - Mar 22, 2011 7:42:53 am PDT #29558 of 30001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Much strength to you, Suela. Care of our parents is so scary and so difficult and there is no clear-cut "right" answer.


Vortex - Mar 22, 2011 7:43:43 am PDT #29559 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Well, my mother would not allow her mother to move in with us, so I have that trump card. Plus, my brother and I already agreed that if mom had to live with someone it would be him. (I had volunteered for dad).


Consuela - Mar 22, 2011 7:46:15 am PDT #29560 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Do you think she might settle down if she was in a place that looked like home?

No. We waited too long to move them to California (it was only in 2009). She can't recognize where she lives now, even surrounded by her own furniture, art, and dog. It's not the house I grew up in, or the summer house they sold five years ago, or my sister's house, and that's all she knows.

Moving them again is something I'd like to avoid, because it won't make that any better. But they were in a retirement community in suburban Florida, completely out of reach to any of their kids, with no support network and not very good medical facilities nearby. At least now she's on better drugs, with a caregiver four times a week, and we got them a pill-dispenser with a timer which helps a lot.

Is there senior center your dad can go to during the day to see other people?

He goes to the gym when the caregiver is there, and the store, and on Saturdays he goes hiking with a group if I can get out there to sit with Mom. But I don't think he has any friends, per se. Thankfully, he has been going to a caregiver's support group a couple of times.


§ ita § - Mar 22, 2011 7:50:35 am PDT #29561 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

That's just so complex and heartwrenching.

I just made a jaunt out for ibuprofen and a Thermacare pad. I'm quietly freaking out over here.


Liese S. - Mar 22, 2011 7:51:08 am PDT #29562 of 30001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

I wish I could get mom to a caregiver's support group. She gives me the Japanese yes which means, "I hear you and I understand what you are saying," not, ok, I'll do it.

I thought it was going to be bad when my dad had to give up driving (and I'd been lecturing mom on getting more comfortable with it beforehand) but it went really smoothly, and kind of naturally. They still went through this big thing about getting a car with handles on the drivers' side so he could pull himself into the seat, but he's never driven it. I think it was worrying him before, so it was something of a relief not to have to do it.


Lee - Mar 22, 2011 7:54:16 am PDT #29563 of 30001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Oh, I think we should definitely do dim sum at some point.

The next few weekends are pretty open for me, so just let me know when it works for you.


Jesse - Mar 22, 2011 7:55:05 am PDT #29564 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Moving them again is something I'd like to avoid, because it won't make that any better.

Your father should get that, shouldn't he? Or maybe he figures the current place is no great shakes anyway, so it would be better to be together?

I'm kind of subconsciously trying to get used to the idea of moving into my parents' house at some point, but they could really use the rental income they could get after my grandmother dies. So I don't know.


Amy - Mar 22, 2011 7:59:07 am PDT #29565 of 30001
Because books.

Is the Thermacare for your stomach, ita?

It's amazing how aging varies, too. There's a woman at my parents' church who's 99 and still living alone. She doesn't drive anymore, and she has some help with getting groceries in and that sort of thing, but otherwise? She's on her own and makes her own meals, and walks the three blocks to church every week. And she's in a row house with two flights of stairs.


§ ita § - Mar 22, 2011 8:02:08 am PDT #29566 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Is the Thermacare for your stomach, ita?

Yeah, it's hurting again.


Consuela - Mar 22, 2011 8:41:32 am PDT #29567 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Or maybe he figures the current place is no great shakes anyway, so it would be better to be together?

I think so. I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that my mother's horrible to him really difficult, and having other people around, especially kids, makes things manageable for him. A couple visits a week with his daughters isn't enough.

She's on her own and makes her own meals, and walks the three blocks to church every week.

Oh, if only. ::sigh:: My mother is my inspiration for eating well and exercising, and keeping my brain active and engaged, which is sad. One shouldn't be a reverse example for one's children.

I should start going out there on a weeknight, but the traffic is a bear. I dunno, maybe that's my tradeoff. I get to live alone but I spend more time with them.