Natter 67: Overriding Vetoes
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, nail polish, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
ION, today is the first day this year where the day is longer than the night in Chicago. Today has 12 hours, one second of daylight.
But if you're further North, your day would be shorter.
Also, 3 days, 5 hours and 25 minutes to the Vernal Equinox.
Jell-o. Though that might be too sweet for you. Maybe unflavored gelatin and juice or something?
ita, I'm around. Want me to pick up some groceries for you?
ita, I'm glad you got a diagnosis, and I hope the meds are very helpful.
ita, I love ginger ale. what about bread/toast? crackers (saltines), rice, rice cakes. popsicles. gatorade. apple juice.
then advance to ice cream.
Would $15/month be too much for the print edition? Just curious.
Nope. But I'm coming from this as someone who already subscribes to a print edition of my local paper and a print subscription to the Economist. So the NYT is a luxury for supplementing those. I think the NYT is worth more than $15 a month, I just don't think the average consumer will pay it.
Sox, you've always paid for ads when reading the print versions of papers, they're just not as noticable and they don't pop up.
My newspaper journalist friends point to one thing as the demise of newspaper quality and availability and revenue: craigslist and ebay. The ads that people used to pay for to sell their stuff in the classifieds section of the paper moved online in the last decade. Something has to replace that revenue, or the salaries for the real journalists is gone. And it's a very, very bad thing.
If it means that more investigative journalism will be conducted, I'll shell out the $15. But I don't have a family to support.
Thanks Java, this is the more nuanced discussion I wasn't voicing so well.
If it means that more investigative journalism will be conducted, I'll shell out the $15. But I don't have a family to support.
I do have one, and I'm still considering shelling out - I'm not saying that.
Sox, you've always paid for ads when reading the print versions of papers, they're just not as noticable and they don't pop up.
My newspaper journalist friends point to one thing as the demise of newspaper quality and availability and revenue: craigslist and ebay. The ads that people used to pay for to sell their stuff in the classifieds section of the paper moved online in the last decade.
agreed on both points.
General, and to close out my part in this - I think people should be paid for the work they do. Otherwise, I have a lot of thoughts on the topic that aren't coming across well, and will likely spark something that I don't want to spark, not really being sure of how I feel about the whole thing. File me under conflicted.
Ita, I'm glad you have a diagnosis.
Burrell is going to help me out! Just saved me from the nether depths of vons.com. It is kinda odd how I seem to live in a dead zone for most other grocery delivery services.
Sox, my first comment was in response to Jess, just so you know (I quoted her). My post wasn't just in response to you, but rather a response in general to the sad state of real news.
To me, cable is entertainment, and, therefore a luxury. But investigative journalism isn't entertainment; it's necessary. And once again, the entertainment option seems to be paid very well (think movie stars) but the necessary option (think teachers) is paid like shit. The SF Chron writers I've known were broker than broke.
Whoa - I'm remotely attending a meeting at work, and they announced that because the company did so well last year, they're giving *everyone* a bonus of $1000 each. We get it tomorrow!
I'm SHOCKED. The new CEO is my favorite person today.