We're not gonna die. We can't die, Bendis. You know why? Because we are so very pretty. We are just too pretty for God to let us die.

Mal ,'Serenity'


Natter 67: Overriding Vetoes  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, nail polish, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Strix - Mar 15, 2011 2:09:56 pm PDT #28496 of 30001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

I love my two kitties, like Dan's cats fine, and am kind but annoyed by the dog.

I will be VERY sad when my cats die, but I have definite financial limits on how much I would spend and also would deeply consider quality of life.

I would post a picture of a cat on FB IF it were truly hilarious.

I have a friend who, while working a low-paying job, must have spent about 10,000 on her pets, including a homeopathic vet, acupuncture and special organic food. She also spent tons of money she didn't really have on vet bills for a cat that was clearly untreatable. It caused serious problems in her marriage. I had a real problem with this.

My cats sleep on my bed sometimes, but I kick them out whenever I feel like it, and if either of them were annoying in the room, I wouldn't allow it. The dog is not allowed upstairs. They all get the healthiest kind of cat chow under $10 with occasional cans of tuna, and the dog gets small dog breed food and meat table scraps once or twice a month, about a saucer full; my pets are not allowed to eat better than I do.

I cuddle my cats and call them ridiculous nicknames, but they are clearly my cats and not children or friends. I look as them as roommates I am responsible for feeding and caring for.


javachik - Mar 15, 2011 2:13:51 pm PDT #28497 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

My dogs are definitely my friends. Definitely. Except they're worse conversationalists than some of my friends. Some.


Trudy Booth - Mar 15, 2011 2:26:23 pm PDT #28498 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Well, I address the dog as, "kid" sometimes. As in, "Kid, what have you done now?". And she's certainly had regular medical care when I have not. If there were some likelyhood of her outliving me some sort of plan would be in place.

I have end of life issues to deal with now and the vet and I are on the same "keep her comfortable" page. She's had seventeen years come May. But if I had the means? And she were younger and X meant saving her life? I'm not sure what I would and would not do. My one cousin has a monthly bill the equivalant of a car payment for surgery that saved her then-kitten's life. Gizmo is a happy cat and she's happy to drive a beater to have him -- pretty sure I'd do that.


Strix - Mar 15, 2011 2:37:15 pm PDT #28499 of 30001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

But if I had the means? And she were younger and X meant saving her life?

See, I get this. But a 16 y.o. cat with pancreatic cancer and you are getting the electricity shut off but paying $1200 vet bills three and four times and year? Nope.

I paid for Solomon's insulin and needles, and paid $150 vets bills quite a few times and ate mac and cheese. But when he was 15ish (never certain of his age), losing teeth, pissing all over and clearly not loving life, I cried and put him to sleep. Took me a couple of weeks of wrestling with the decision, and he was very much a roommate cat.

I adore my present kitties, and would definitely spend for vet bills, but I simply would not take extraordinary measures. They are adored and loved, definitely, but faced with a $3000 bill, I would be VERY hesitant, unless it was a sure fix and they would have years more of a good life.


Jesse - Mar 15, 2011 2:41:11 pm PDT #28500 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I adore my present kitties, and would definitely spend for vet bills, but I simply would not take extraordinary measures. They are adored and loved, definitely, but faced with a $3000 bill, I would be VERY hesitant, unless it was a sure fix and they would have years more of a good life.

Me too.


JZ - Mar 15, 2011 2:45:23 pm PDT #28501 of 30001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Holy crap. Rescue workers just found a 4-month-old baby, alive and unharmed, buried in the rubble. Swept out of her parents' arms. They survived too, but they thought she was gone forever. I can't even imagine what it would be like, three days of that grief and then improbably -- impossibly -- getting your baby back, whole and perfect, in the midst of all that destruction.


le nubian - Mar 15, 2011 2:51:44 pm PDT #28502 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

OMG, JZ. Wow.


hippocampus - Mar 15, 2011 2:54:56 pm PDT #28503 of 30001
not your mom's socks.

if that's not on goodstuff yet, it darn well should be.


Jesse - Mar 15, 2011 2:59:28 pm PDT #28504 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Yeah, OK.


Consuela - Mar 15, 2011 3:03:11 pm PDT #28505 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Oh, that's fantastic.