My mom made TJs pumpkin bread with dark chocolate chips. Also really good.

That does sound yummy.

My sister and I walked up to the local diner for breakfast, then over to a used bookstore, and then to a Thanksgiving food tasting at the local co-op. I'll be taking her to the airport in an hour or so, and then going to the Apple store with amyth and to amyth's party tomorrow. I'm thinking that, aside from a flying lesson, tomorrow's gonna be all about the hermiting.

I know... but YAPPY means most likely it doesn't have humans who know how to keep it happy, one way or another.

As a rule, I mean. I knew a Papillon that was a totally lovable dog, well-behaved/trained except for the vocalizing. Eventually was debarked, which may seem in theory cruel, but it meant the dog happily went on going ruff ruff not knowing that the neighbors were no longer aware of it.

mac wanted me to stop indoor chores and go work in the yard so he could ride his scooter. He's been watching tv and playing ds for 4 hours straight, so I declined and said he need to do something to help around the house. He's packed a backpack and gone out the front door. If I go check to soon and he is there he will likely go further, if he has really gone off, the longer I wait the less likely we'll know where he is, if he's out front still and I wait too long I'll get the whole "you don't even care if I left" yelling hissy fit. I hate the no-win.

I know... but YAPPY means most likely it doesn't have humans who know how to keep it happy, one way or another.

I understand what Dana is saying, but I agree with Theo on this. And, sadly, not all people who have dogs love them, or even care for them with the minimum attention required. I wish it were axiomatic that owning a dog meant the owners loved it, but it's not. Leaving a dog outside for hours isn't necessarily neglect, but then again, it could be. And then the dog could be barking because it's cold, it's hungry, it's hurt, whatever. Such an owner might love their dog (or say that they do), but they could still use some education at the very least.

Ack, msbelle, I hate that things get this way for you and mac.

All right, it is time to CLEAN ALL THE THINGS! Wish me luck.

Even if an owner doesn't love it, I wouldn't wish for an eagle to eat it anymore than I'd wish an eagle would eat a cat that pees on a bed.

Even if an owner doesn't love it, I wouldn't wish for an eagle to eat it anymore than I'd wish an eagle would eat a cat that pees on a bed.

I took that as the same kind of hyperbole we all use from time to time when we're annoyed, and saying we wish certain politicians (or whoever) would die bloody. I don't think Erin really wants an eagle to eat the dog. I think she was annoyed that it barks all the time, that's all.

I know. That's why I am commenting on other's comments, correlating the value of the doggie's life with being loved by somebody.

Please, people make jokes all the time about drop-kicking small dogs, or wishing they'd die. I don't think it's funny. I don't care if the dog's happy or not. I don't care if the people can't take care of it. It's not funny, it upsets me, and I wish you guys wouldn't do it.