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Natter 67: Overriding Vetoes  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, nail polish, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Typo Boy - Mar 15, 2011 8:25:41 am PDT #28389 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

The loss of life from what happened in Chernobyl in my opinion is sometimes underestimated. Early theoretical projections were based on estimates of the consequences of low level radiation that are no longer accepted. Some of the most cited studies that give empirical results well below those numbers managed to not count a large number of people. So I'l be glad if it is not that bad in Japan. For us in the U.S. , there is little to worry about. Radiation from Japan should hit Washington Coast where I live around the 21st, but most of the radioactive particles will drop into the ocean between Japan and here so, as Ginger noted, probably a really tiny increased risk by the time it gets here. The one remaining coal plant in our state which is near me is more of a health risk to our state, and probably over its life cycle is responsible for more radiation than your average nuclear power plant. It is certainly responsible for exposing me personally to more radiation than all the accidents in Japan will be.

To move from garcentricity, it will also be diluted enough in the ocean not to be noticeable to fish and the rest of the world too. Area immediately off coast of Japan, I don't know enough to say. Other nations a lot closer to Japan than we are, I don't know.


DavidS - Mar 15, 2011 8:28:04 am PDT #28390 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Well, to Fred's point, Wikipedia tells me that two of the worst natural disasters of the 20th century happened during my childhood, during the 70s and I've never heard of them.

The 1976 Tangshen earthquake in China killed between 242,000 and 779,000 people.

The 1970 Bhola cyclone killed between 300,000 and 500,000 people in Bangladesh (then East Pakistan).

The 1972 Iran blizzard was also the worst of the century, killing 4,000.

Also in 1975 there was a flood in China that killed 231,000.

I'm thinking the Maoist regime wasn't so big on saving the lives.


Fred Pete - Mar 15, 2011 8:32:57 am PDT #28391 of 30001
Ann, that's a ferret.

The Maoist regime also wasn't so big on talking about what was going on in China.


DavidS - Mar 15, 2011 8:33:20 am PDT #28392 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Interesting, Germany is shutting down all seven of its pre-1980 nuclear power plants.


DavidS - Mar 15, 2011 8:35:23 am PDT #28393 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

The Maoist regime also wasn't so big on talking about what was going on in China.

That too. I remember when I was first looking up big natural disasters in the Guiness Book of World Records (which I purchased religiously as a kid) and being surprised by the 1931 floods in China being the worst with 2.5 to 3.1 million people killed. That's about four times the population of San Francisco.


§ ita § - Mar 15, 2011 8:35:37 am PDT #28394 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Whew. Home. Done working for now. Wow. I feel like crap.


Burrell - Mar 15, 2011 8:36:16 am PDT #28395 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

The 1970 Bhola cyclone killed between 300,000 and 500,000 people in Bangladesh (then East Pakistan).

I only know of this disaster because of the Ravi Shankar concert for Bangladesh. We must have had that record when I was growing up. But I fully admit that I had absolutely no conception of the kind of destruction it must have wrought.


DavidS - Mar 15, 2011 8:37:06 am PDT #28396 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Aha! Wikipedia validates me.

"The 2000s experienced some of the worst and most destructive natural disasters in history."


Amy - Mar 15, 2011 8:38:52 am PDT #28397 of 30001
Because books.

"The 2000s experienced some of the worst and most destructive natural disasters in history."

That's not a good thing, you know.


§ ita § - Mar 15, 2011 8:44:20 am PDT #28398 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It'll never beat 65 Billion years BC. That was a real disaster. Disasters these days don't know shit.