Let him do his thing, and then you get him out. No messing with him for laughs.

Mal ,'Ariel'


Natter 67: Overriding Vetoes  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, nail polish, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Liese S. - Mar 13, 2011 9:47:33 am PDT #28050 of 30001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Desire to nap, yes. Shop, no.

Yes. This.

I am so happy for your continuing yard joy. And yay for awesome Carmen!


erin_obscure - Mar 13, 2011 9:49:25 am PDT #28051 of 30001
Occasionally I’m callous and strange

Steph, i wish i were one of your coworkers tomorrow. Just tomorrow, for the pi(e).


le nubian - Mar 13, 2011 9:49:45 am PDT #28052 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Sue, of course!

pie for pi.

I wonder if I should make a pie as well? I haven't made a sweet potato pie since January, time to make another I think.


smonster - Mar 13, 2011 9:50:10 am PDT #28053 of 30001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

I'm watching the Carolina-Duke ACC Championship game (GO HEELS!!) with amyth and a fellow geeky friend. amyth says hello and she misses you all and hopes to be back on the board soon, and apologies to anyone she owes email to.


beth b - Mar 13, 2011 9:51:36 am PDT #28054 of 30001
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

Wheen i ccok dried fruit in my oatmeal -- I don't add more sugar. But then I've weaned my self off a lot of things tha t have extra sugar in them ( why does peanut butter have sugar in it)

and just as a matter of I can't help myself. ... when some uses the term high carb -- what they usually mean is that a small amount of food has about 15 grams of carbohydrate s -- in the case of oatmeal that means 1/2 of a cup. ( rice is about 1/3 of a cup) Broccoli is not high carb it takes about 1 and 1/2 cups to get to 15 grams of carbohydrate. aq


beth b - Mar 13, 2011 10:01:36 am PDT #28055 of 30001
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

and Nathaniel just stood on the send button.

one more thing

you can get dried without added sugar. Not cranberries, but cherries, berries , apples,etc. So as long as you are paying attention -- usually it is 2 tablespoons to 1 serving of fruit.

and I have to do this with food. I do not believe that anyone food is so perfect or so evil that you should never eat it ( BTW I don't believe twinkies are food) I havve one friend who has to eat a lot of fiber I have another that just can't handle it. You have to know what works for you


§ ita § - Mar 13, 2011 10:06:00 am PDT #28056 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Work is still kicking my ass. I'm trying to relax and not undo the ER, but I have plans this afternoon, and everything is moving like molasses.


Steph L. - Mar 13, 2011 10:20:56 am PDT #28057 of 30001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

when some uses the term high carb -- what they usually mean is that a small amount of food has about 15 grams of carbohydrate s

I've never heard people clarify it in such specific terms. I've heard people use the phrase to mean starchy, non-fiber-y carbs that quickly break down to sugar and spike your insulin, like Wonder Bread or a Moon Pie.

But I know that you (beth) are pretty well-educated on all that because of your diabetes, so that usage of it is interesting. I probably hear "high carb" from women's magazines and people who are dieting and so forth, who don't understand (or even know) the whole 15 gram rule.

My understanding is that the fiber of "high carb" foods that are also high in fiber does help to ameliorate the insulin spike one would get with a Moon Pie. But I'm not diabetic, so I don't pay as close of attention to that nutritional fine print the way diabetics do.

And then of course people's bodies are different, and maybe the fiber in oatmeal does ameliorate the insulin spike in most people but not everyone, in which case, well, eggs are a lovely breakfast food.


Amy - Mar 13, 2011 10:27:36 am PDT #28058 of 30001
Because books.

I've never heard people clarify it in such specific terms. I've heard people use the phrase to mean starchy, non-fiber-y carbs that quickly break down to sugar and spike your insulin, like Wonder Bread or a Moon Pie.

It's been helpful to me to understand it that way. Like beth said, the part of a donut that equals 15 g of carbs is incredibly small compared to the amount of broccoli, for instance (or even rice or whole grain) that equals 15 g of carbs.

I don't like to cut anything out completely, because if it's forbidden it's all I want, but I know if I'm going to have pancakes, I know I have to watch my carbs (and make them healthier carbs) later in the day.


Steph L. - Mar 13, 2011 10:35:08 am PDT #28059 of 30001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I guess I'm used to people who use "low carb" (for whatever definition they choose) to lose weight. (I remember how the Weight Watchers POINTS system was set up so that more fiber meant lower points.) The people I knew weren't real up on how the carb content affects insulin levels and whatnot; just that "lower carb is always better."