Also, some car salesmen can be very annoying. I once got up and walked out of a dealership while the salesman was still talking to me.

I think what we need to decide before we go in is (1) What's the most we're willing to pay for this car, and (2) If they won't go as low as we want, are we willing to just walk away? Once we settle those questions, and can present a united front, I think I'll feel better.

Also make sure you only talk about the out-the-door price (with taxes and fees), which is what you will actually be paying for the car and will be hundreds more than the asking price.

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What everyone said. Also at some point what you may need to do is just give them your lowest price, and ask for a yes or no answer. If you don't get it then just walk out, slowly. Saunter. Stroll. And when they ask you to please wait, tell them you have given them your final offer, and that it is up to them to accept it or not. On your way out, you can stop at the reception desk and leave your phone number in case they change their mind.

Also be ready for them to sell you on the extended warranty. You'll be vulnerable and confused! Watch out!

Oh and one other thing. Since it sounds like you have not bought via dealer before, watch out for the following:

Guy you are dealing with says "what if we do X. Would you accept that?". If you way yes ,he will get a check from you and bring it to his boss, and then come back and say "your offers was not accepted. The boss is willing to do y". So now you thought you were accepting an offer from him but really he just got you to raise yours. Plus they have a check to hold to keep there negotiating it. So if they say something like that and it is a deal you like, ask them if that is a firm offer on their part.

I'd also recommended looking on a used-car site like Autotrader.com even if you are planning to physically go places to look. The dealers know price is what's going to attract people there, so you'll get a better idea of what the real prices are and what you can get for the amount you want to spend. If you see a great price there, print off the ad and bring it with you.

Also make sure you only talk about the out-the-door price (with taxes and fees), which is what you will actually be paying for the car and will be hundreds more than the asking price.

Oh, good call. And good advice, everyone! I'm taking notes.

The other piece of the puzzle is financing. How are you going to pay for it, and do you have that set up before you go? You should; their financing is unlikely to be favorable to you.

Happy Friday! Here's a funny cat video:

Kitten Doesn't Understand "Transparent"

Caro the kitten is trying to liberate Miho from an invisible force field. Meanwhile, mama is glad to have a minute of peace and quiet inside the box!