I'll be fine. I'll be your bounty, Jubal Early. And I'll just fade away.

River ,'Objects In Space'


Natter 67: Overriding Vetoes  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, nail polish, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


amyth - Jan 26, 2011 8:45:53 am PST #19123 of 30001
And none of us deserving the cruelty or the grace -- Leonard Cohen

Inorite?


Jesse - Jan 26, 2011 8:46:36 am PST #19124 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

But I'm afraid the chutney isn't made from local organic fruit?


amyth - Jan 26, 2011 8:47:51 am PST #19125 of 30001
And none of us deserving the cruelty or the grace -- Leonard Cohen

But I'm afraid the chutney isn't made from local organic fruit?

smonster, I'm afraid you're going to have to ask. I need to KNOW.


smonster - Jan 26, 2011 8:49:43 am PST #19126 of 30001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

smonster, I'm afraid you're going to have to ask. I need to KNOW.

Okay. Anything else I should ask? Want a drink? I printed the voucher, and there's no limitations that would affect us.

Also, paid my credit card bill. BOO. YAH.


sumi - Jan 26, 2011 8:52:23 am PST #19127 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Hmmm, Zenyatta and Bernardini. . .


amyth - Jan 26, 2011 8:52:30 am PST #19128 of 30001
And none of us deserving the cruelty or the grace -- Leonard Cohen

Want a drink?

Naw, I have a lifetime supply of seltzer, a growler of beer, and ten kinds of tea bags. You know, the usual. But if you don't want any of that, then you should probably get something, because that's all I (ever) have. Besides coffee.

Actually, I think there's some wine in the fridge. But I think it's from October.


ChiKat - Jan 26, 2011 8:55:43 am PST #19129 of 30001
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

OMG, y'all. One of my students sneezed so hard he banged his face into his desk. Between gasps for breath, I made sure he was okay (he was) then totally fell over laughing. Funniest thing I've seen all week.


Fred Pete - Jan 26, 2011 8:56:02 am PST #19130 of 30001
Ann, that's a ferret.

Dear Weather Channel,

Weather is all you do. When there's a winter storm warning for the area, could you give us local radar that isn't three hours old?

No love,

Fred


Typo Boy - Jan 26, 2011 8:57:18 am PST #19131 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

ita, maybe "you can't con an honest man" bugs you for the same reason it bugs me. It is not true. Certain cons require dishonesty on the part of the mark, but lots don't. So that saying is a con person's justification: "the mark had it coming." About 20 years ago, it was common among scam artists to refer to the mark as "the mooch". (Don't know if still true today.) My thought when I first heard that: projection much?

Incidentally the particular scam was covered in the LA Times and was a perfect example of cheating extremely honest people, not even stupid, just naive.

During a period of high unemployment, con artists would put together businesses they sold as operating businesses, but really only existed on paper, to people who still had saving but were desparate for work. The con artist justification was "that who expects to get a dry cleaning business for $25,000. The mooch was after something for nothing and got what he deserved." But of course all the victim was guilty of was not doing homework, and not understanding basic business principles. The person was unemployed, has savings and tried to buy a small business he expected to work hard and make a go of. There is zero dishonest about that. It is not even a bad idea in principle. And there is nothing wrong trying to find something in your price range. It was incredibly naive, but a lot of people have no idea of what kind of investment even a labor intensive small business takes. And a lot of people really don't understand what kind research due diligence takes. A lot of non-stupid people can be naive in that particular way, especially when they are desperate.

So in my opinion a very cruel way to cheat an honest person.


smonster - Jan 26, 2011 9:00:30 am PST #19132 of 30001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

So that saying is a con person's justification: "the mark had it coming."

Pretty much only true on Leverage.