Spike's Bitches 46: Don't I get a cookie?
[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.
All three of these people (this was three different advice columns, a few years apart, so I'm pretty sure it was actually three different people) wrote to the advice column wanting the columnist to tell other brides and grooms out there not to do something so tacky as have a vegan wedding.
I hope the columnist (politely) ripped them a new one about this.
I hope the columnist (politely) ripped them a new one about this.
I love reading Slate's Prudie. She's awesome at telling people who are insane how very much they are insane. (Or rude, or whatever.)
I do have a cousin and her husband who are vegetarian. They live in the midwest and one of the few Thanksgivings I've been able to spend with them I made sure there were veggie side dishes - even simple stuff like cooking green beans in olive oil and not all in bacon grease.
As we were talking I found out that while my aunt takes these steps her in laws have never provided a single veggie dish for the holidays. Not even something as simple as changing out bacon for oil.
I think aggressively talking about the reasons you chose to be a vegetarian or vegan during a meal traditionally centered around turkey is in poor taste. But answering questions when asked is fine.
I have an aunt who will always take a little bit of the stuffing and bake it separate for me. Because I once mentioned I liked it that way better. Truthfully, I just really dislike stuffing cooked in the bird and adore it cooked in something ceramic. But I'd only barely mentioned it during a non-holiday meal. It always makes me so happy when I see that casserole not just because mmmm, baked bready stuff, but because she just quietly listened, took note and wanted to do this for me.
I have a friend that would like to be vegatarian , and possible even vegan. For a combination of reasons - including carbon footprint. And after trying , experimenting and studying a number of issues ( goat cheese/ milk my be better than soy from a carbon foot print view. we do some less than ideal farming ). She has decided to cook vegetarian . She will eat what ever anyone has cooked for her . and restaurants , she is trying to go with a flexible mindset. It is interesting to see other people judge. Interestingly, I have found vegans some of the least judgemental about food issues. Maybe because if you have been doing it for awhile, you know it isn't easy?
We already do two stuffings since there's never enough inside-the-bird for everyone so all we have to do is use vegetarian broth instead of chicken for the outside-the-bird stuff et voila: everybody gets stuffed. Except my sister-in-law never gets the oyster stuffing she really wants... maybe we should make three this year.
Lessee if I can do this from memory:
Spidra, my heart goes out to you. I still find myself "going to the hardware store for milk" with my family, and it hurts every time. I hate that you find yourself in this situation, and I hope you find a way out. If there's anything I can do, even just listen on the phone, just let me know.
Woo! Go Nate!
Barb, I can't wait to read it. So gorgeous.
Ginger, oy vey iz mir. Good luck getting through all that.
My parents have been, thankfully, very supportive of my sister going pescatarian.
If I missed anybody, I'm sorry.
I am perfectly happy to have vegetarians or vegans at my thanksgiving--provided they don't require the whole meal to be veg/vegan. That said, I will NOT be attending my vegan friend's thanksgiving dinner, because...my Thanksgiving involves turkey. And broth. And cheese, and cream of mushroom soup, and gravy...and plenty of veg stuff, but.
I feel like i should go swimming, or do some yoga, so some form of exercise, but i am exhausted from running errands and think i shall instead watch the final season of the Tudors while decorating eggs. Pretties.
My mom and stepdad are vegan, and I've had their vegan Thanksgiving feast (including Tofurkey), and it was honestly really good. Well, the Tofurkey was not the best meat substitute I've ever had, but with gravy on top, it was just fine. All the sides, though, were awesome. Didn't matter one jot that they were vegan. And I like me some food, so I don't just praise indiscriminately.
The Boy is vegetarian, and he's very good-natured about holiday dinners, and can generally make a feast out of side dishes. And if ham turns up in the green beans, he'll just eat it and say he needed some vitamin B12. (I think he feels like, what's the point in wasting food he's already put on his plate? What greater purpose is it going to serve? Which I think is pretty cool of him.)
Now I have a hankering for a big Ren Faire-style turkey leg.