Mal: Gotta say, doctor, your talent for alienatin' folk is near miraculous. Simon: Yes, I'm very proud.

'Safe'


Spike's Bitches 46: Don't I get a cookie?  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Cass - Oct 25, 2010 9:03:52 pm PDT #6646 of 30000
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Does it have to be all or nothing?

From my admittedly vague understanding of the cultural expectations, yes.

I've tried to be supportive of P-C respectfully declining to participate in an arranged marriage. But respectfully. And secretly emailing a girl (from his perspective) / prospective wife (from his parents) behind everyone's backs isn't respectful in this situation, to me.


Cass - Oct 25, 2010 9:06:51 pm PDT #6647 of 30000
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

My response above was to Laga's post, not yours, P-C.

I am entirely uninterested in the Process, and I have said so numerous times.

But can you see how starting up communication with a woman that your parents see as a prospective wife is blurring that line?

I just think that if you want them to respect you as an adult who wants to chose their own mate, you need to steer very clear of the potential wives they find for you. Otherwise they have no reason to stop pestering and poking and trying.


Laga - Oct 25, 2010 9:08:05 pm PDT #6648 of 30000
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

In any case, I never heard back from her after the initial response.

So it doesn't matter anyway, eh?

I wish there was some way for everyone to be happy. But maybe the only person you can make happy is yourself, P-C.


Laga - Oct 25, 2010 9:20:51 pm PDT #6649 of 30000
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

But yeah, easier said than done.


Polter-Cow - Oct 25, 2010 9:21:06 pm PDT #6650 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

But can you see how starting up communication with a woman that your parents see as a prospective wife is blurring that line?

I can.

I just think that if you want them to respect you as an adult who wants to chose their own mate, you need to steer very clear of the potential wives they find for you. Otherwise they have no reason to stop pestering and poking and trying.

As I said, lesson learned. I thought I could make this work out somehow.


Cass - Oct 25, 2010 9:30:41 pm PDT #6651 of 30000
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

As I said, lesson learned.

Days we learn something aren't always easy days, but I think they are, in the end, good days.

Sorry it's such a rough learning curve though.


omnis_audis - Oct 25, 2010 9:35:29 pm PDT #6652 of 30000
omnis, pursue. That's an order from a shy woman who can use M-16. - Shir

P-C, not to make light of the situation, but previously e-mails you have shared were all ASSCAPS, so at least she got her finger off the shift button, right?


Laga - Oct 25, 2010 9:41:03 pm PDT #6653 of 30000
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

Hooray for lower case!


Shir - Oct 25, 2010 9:45:22 pm PDT #6654 of 30000
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

Yay Spidra!

{{{P-C}}} I have no words, man. Really. As Typo wrote, stay strong.

And also, {smonster}. Just because.

Continued ~ma to Fred Pete, Hubs and Marie.

The stories will come once the storytellers feel safe, I think.

30 seconds before you sent this, a woman sent me x-pages long word document, specifying every sexual assault, rape, abuse and harassment ever been done to her.

Due to my strong sense of privacy, I skimmed and skipped and didn't read what isn't on the site's agenda. I will direct her to consultation and to the site which collects stories of survivors, and ask for her permission to post only Hollaback stories.

But God. Even though I skipped and skimmed what didn't seem to be a written for the site (and therefore, for my eyes), it was all too much. My heart goes out to that woman. She's exceptionally brave.

Edit: and, three seconds ago - first interview request for one of the top three daily newspapers in Israel. And we only just begun!


omnis_audis - Oct 25, 2010 11:04:19 pm PDT #6655 of 30000
omnis, pursue. That's an order from a shy woman who can use M-16. - Shir

Holy shit Shir! That is so cool! Take back the streets for women in Israel! So proud of you!!!

eta: Yup, heading to bed now. Teaching again in the morning. Breakfast is ready. Lunch is made. Just gotta wake up and get on the road early. Woot.