And don't forget that fruit, as tasty as it is, loses most of its nutritional value (other than the vitamin C) as soon as it's juiced. So, given a choice between orange juice and an orange, have the orange.

And don't forget that fruit, as tasty as it is, loses most of its nutritional value (other than the vitamin C) as soon as it's juiced. So, given a choice between orange juice and an orange, have the orange.

Unless you want the tasty and don't care about the fiber.

Unless you want the tasty and don't care about the fiber.

True! But for me, since the surgery, I really need the fiber, and since I'm already getting the vitamin C via my daily multivitamins, that bottle of juice is just 150 empty calories.

What if you juice it yourself and it's all pulpy?

I'm not sure! That's something I should ask my dietician.

Unless you want the tasty and don't care about the fiber.

True! But for me, since the surgery, I really need the fiber,

I totally get that. I just fall into the trap sometimes of My Food Must Be In The Most Nutritious Form Possible, and then I don't eat it because it's nasty. For instance, broccoli with cheese on it is, many would argue, less nutritious than just plain broccoli (due to The Evil Fatttz in the cheese). Okay, but after 40 years of life I have accepted that I am not going to eat broccoli plain. Gotta have cheese on it to get me to eat it. So, "less nutritious," perhaps, but the "more nutritious" version isn't actually nourishing me if it's not being eaten.

Cheese also has dairy and calciums!

Cheese also has dairy and calciums!

Oh, *I* don't think broccoli with cheese is less nutritious, but a lot of other people do. They seem to think that adding cheese actually, literally, lessens the nutritional value of the broccoli. "Well, you just went and cancelled out the broccoli by putting cheese on it!"

Or like my friend who thinks that eating pumpkin bread after walking the dog "undoes all the good of the walk." Really? That's news to my large muscle groups and my cardiovascular system.

It's just a pet peeve of mine.

Also, I tend to think adults are, y'know, adults, and can decide to eat whatever the hell they want, even if it's cheese withOUT broccoli under it. WITHOUT walking the dog first.

I finally gave up on broccoli, Tep. I now have edamame with almost every dinner. Easy to steam, not bitter like the evil broc, and full of soy and all kinds of good stuff. Plus it's delicious without having to cover it with cheese.

Serial: The DH's recent health ills have caused us to reconsider what we eat. He is now on blood pressure meds and wants VERY BADLY to get off them. We are looking into this: [link] It was just rated "best diet" in terms of health and nutrition by (I think) US News & World Report.

I figure it will help his overall health and won't be bad for me, either, considering that my grandparents and my dad died of heart disease.