If every vampire who said he was at the crucifixion was actually there, it would have been like Woodstock.

Spike ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Spike's Bitches 46: Don't I get a cookie?  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


javachik - May 09, 2011 9:01:02 am PDT #21086 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

I really prefer PTO to separate sick/vacation time. I thought everybody preferred it. But I was wrong!

Nope, it encourages people to work when they're sick. I don't charge my employees PTO when I send them home sick for this very reason. But my surgeries have been so high-profile in my company that my boss and I can't get away with not charging me the time off.

(Not only do I not charge PTO for my employees who are truly sick, but I often tell them that if they call in sick in the morning and they feel better in the afternoon (when they're actually using PTO), they should go play golf or see a movie. Since it's PTO, it's theirs to use any way they see fit.)

But I don't have a problem with anyone in my group having excessive unplanned absences, so I have the luxury of this approach.


lisah - May 09, 2011 9:01:42 am PDT #21087 of 30000
Punishingly Intricate

I really prefer PTO to separate sick/vacation time. I thought everybody preferred it. But I was wrong!

Ugh, no! Taking a sick day means one less vacation day.


meara - May 09, 2011 9:18:20 am PDT #21088 of 30000

See, since I very very rarely take sick days (if I'm traveling I really can't unless I'm in the hospital, and if I"m home, there's no reason to--I can make up the work later in the day/week if I have a headache), I love the PTO. I don't really love that I can't carry over much of it or that it's really hard to arrange and still do my job well, but...

Polter-Cow, your poor brother! Not the having to drive home every night thing, but the having it assumed he won't, and having to tell them every time! What a pain in the ass, knowing that you're going to have to have that fight...yeesh.


DavidS - May 09, 2011 9:20:40 am PDT #21089 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

See, since I very very rarely take sick days (if I'm traveling I really can't unless I'm in the hospital, and if I"m home, there's no reason to--I can make up the work later in the day/week if I have a headache), I love the PTO.

This is why I always preferred PTO. Also, you don't have to fib about a sick day when you just need a day off. (Some places have policies that discourage taking off vacation as less than a one-week chunk, however, when you're a parent you mostly need to take individual days for a variety of reasons.)


javachik - May 09, 2011 9:20:59 am PDT #21090 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

Yeah, you might not love it so much if you were surrounded by people coughing and wheezing all day, meara!


meara - May 09, 2011 9:30:47 am PDT #21091 of 30000

Yeah, you might not love it so much if you were surrounded by people coughing and wheezing all day, meara!

Oh, totally! Though I have been the person puking in a trashcan while saying "no, no, I can review this, just stay away from me..." at a site. (I left early, since I had two days there, and later that night was feverishly wandering through Walmart in rural Louisiana looking for jello).


brenda m - May 09, 2011 9:48:08 am PDT #21092 of 30000
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Nope, it encourages people to work when they're sick. I don't charge my employees PTO when I send them home sick for this very reason. But my surgeries have been so high-profile in my company that my boss and I can't get away with not charging me the time off.

I'm the opposite, since I've found that people are often kind of skeptical of sick time, unless it's as obvious as Java's. With PTO I don't feel like I have to fake cough in order to take care of a real one.

(And, to be fair, I'm rarely sick so it tends to translate into more vacation time for me.


Vortex - May 09, 2011 9:50:05 am PDT #21093 of 30000
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I think that combined PTO encourages people to work when they're sick. OTOH, it makes it easier for parents when their kids are sick, for example. Of course, I have over 600 hours of sick leave, but whatev.


javachik - May 09, 2011 9:50:26 am PDT #21094 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

Well maybe the answer is to stick with PTO but gives WAY MORE OF IT! Our company has lousy benefits.

Y'all know how much I love my job. I love my boss, and my employees. And our product. BUT our company benefits are truly crap. No matching 401K, no tuition reimbursement, okay medical if you're single like me (but crap for a family), no EOPS, no nothing. We do have ESPP which has been okay.

But I've stayed happy for 4 years because of the people. And now that my CEO is "retiring" by end of year, I'm starting to listen to recruiter calls.


lisah - May 09, 2011 9:58:29 am PDT #21095 of 30000
Punishingly Intricate

Well maybe the answer is to stick with PTO but gives WAY MORE OF IT!

Our PTO is pretty standard, I think, but I lost vacation time when we converted from separate vacation/sick to combined PTO. But the company is generally pretty generous and flexible so I don't bitch about it. I can work at home when I'm not feeling great but not incapacitated and we can make up time off w/in a pay period so it's worked out okay for me.