That's beautiful. Or taken literally, incredibly gross.

Buffy ,'Potential'


Spike's Bitches 46: Don't I get a cookie?  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Hil R. - Mar 13, 2011 11:09:51 am PDT #17468 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Sheesh Hil, you've already eliminated all the major sources of cholesterol (i.e. animal products), what other kind of "diet change" is supposed to help? (Aside from copious quanities of oatmeal and cheerios)

A few years ago, a doctor sent me a letter telling me to reduce my intake of red meat and dairy products. It's like, at least make an effort to pretend you're not just sending a form letter. This one kind of puzzles me with its advice to "change diet" and absolutely no suggestions of what changes to make.


Typo Boy - Mar 13, 2011 11:17:35 am PDT #17469 of 30000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Unless you are loading up on palm oil and coconut milk and such, either directly or in the better tasting vegan cheeses and so forth, can't imagine what you could do better in your diet.


erin_obscure - Mar 13, 2011 11:38:29 am PDT #17470 of 30000
Occasionally I’m callous and strange

is this the same Dr who was so understanding of your exercise limitations?


NoiseDesign - Mar 13, 2011 11:49:10 am PDT #17471 of 30000
Our wings are not tired

Steph is there a possibility that without his cell phone he doesn't have your phone number available? It has hit me a few times that without my phone I have very few numbers committed to memory any more.


smonster - Mar 13, 2011 11:52:57 am PDT #17472 of 30000
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Smonster, I'm sorry if I was insensitive to you or anyone else with what I posted earlier. I have never known anyone who committed suicide before.

No, you absolutely weren't. I just needed to share or something, it's what I do.


Steph L. - Mar 13, 2011 11:53:38 am PDT #17473 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Steph is there a possibility that without his cell phone he doesn't have your phone number available? It has hit me a few times that without my phone I have very few numbers committed to memory any more.

When he was sentenced, he asked an officer (or guard?), who was VERY nice to do so, to go out to his car and get this cell phone so he could copy down Tim's number to call him and let him know he had to serve 5 days. So he had it, because he called Tim Thursday after he was sentenced. It's possible he threw it away afterward, in which case my sympathy is again evaporating quickly.


sj - Mar 13, 2011 11:59:40 am PDT #17474 of 30000
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

No, you absolutely weren't. I just needed to share or something, it's what I do.

Well, it's what we do.

Teppy, this kid definitely sounds not bright.


Typo Boy - Mar 13, 2011 12:05:10 pm PDT #17475 of 30000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Again, you absolutely are not morally required to let him sleep on your couch if it will be awful for you. Not telling you what to decide, but you are still a good person if you say "no".


Beverly - Mar 13, 2011 12:10:34 pm PDT #17476 of 30000
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

He could have had everything--even a slip of paper--confiscated when he was put in jail. You walk in in your birthday suit with your prison uniform folded in your arms, in some places. He'll get it back with the rest of his "personal effects" when he's released. I'd first expect and believe that while you're being told he has phone privilege and access, he may, in actual fact, not have. Or he may not know how to access the phone in his current situation.

I know the limbo of uncertainty is awful, and I know he's earned whatever he's going through by his actions or inactions. All I'm saying is I doubt he's refraining from contact because he doesn't want to get in touch.

Also, this?

I was doing what I needed to do for MYSELF. The fact that my father benefited was essentially beside the point.

Is where 95% of any benefit of the doubt or mercy or forgiveness comes from with me. I am not a good or a nice person. But I need to jettison every bit of anger, fear, or hatred--justified or not--in order to survive, so that's what I try to do. If someone else benefits, fine. But I don't do it for them.


meara - Mar 13, 2011 12:15:33 pm PDT #17477 of 30000

Or he may not know how to access the phone in his current situation.

Yeah, my first thought was maybe he thinks he IS doing you a favor by not calling--not costing you/Tim more money? If nothing has changed and he's still getting out the same day/time, he may figure "it's five days, nothing's changed, I just need to get through these days and then we'll figure it all out".