The aristocratic classes were the warrior classes. That is how the aristocracy came to be--it consisted of the knights who defended the lands and the peoples from foreign invaders.
They're not wrong.
Mal: You want to tell me how come there's a statue of you here looking at me like I owe him something? Jayne: Wishing I could, Captain.
'Jaynestown'
Spike's Bitches 46: Don't I get a cookie?
[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.
Connie Neil - Dec 13, 2010 10:53:54 am PST #10913 of 30000
brillig
Liese S. - Dec 13, 2010 11:13:02 am PST #10914 of 30000
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."
Good job, Steph.
Connie Neil - Dec 13, 2010 11:21:20 am PST #10915 of 30000
brillig
I looked through some of the pictures on Judgment of Paris, and I didn't see many of those women with double-chins. Are there big women out there who manage not to have double-chins, damn-their-genes?
Steph L. - Dec 13, 2010 11:24:35 am PST #10916 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine
I didn't see many of those women with double-chins. Are there big women out there who manage not to have double-chins, damn-their-genes?
A lot of those women are probably 5' 10" or taller, and maybe a US size 14 (or even 12). For the most part, that's not double-chin size; that's just larger-than-the-Hollywood-ideal size.
When I was a 14 (and even 16, IIRC), at 5' 6", I didn't have a double chin.
Unfortunately, there aren't a lot of plus-size models who are size 18 or above and get regular work. Or, I should say, work that's widespread.
ChiKat - Dec 13, 2010 11:27:32 am PST #10917 of 30000
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?
When I was a 14 (and even 16, IIRC), at 5' 6", I didn't have a double chin.
I'm 5'3", but at a 14 and 16 I do have more than one chin. Damn genetics.
WindSparrow - Dec 13, 2010 11:31:18 am PST #10918 of 30000
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.
Teppy, I'm glad you got some satisfaction from that conversation.
DJ, your friend is lovely, and it is great that she is getting work that suits her and builds her up rather than marginalizes her. I think the commentary was right that in the past full-figured women such as Marilyn Monroe were included in the public view of womanly beauty, so that once upon a time a person with a nice figure such as that of your friend would be considered normal, healthy and attractive rather than "plus-sized". I hope you don't feel it is a reflection against your friend that there is more discussion here about the rest of the BS in the article.
lisah - Dec 13, 2010 11:37:04 am PST #10919 of 30000
Punishingly Intricate
I'm about a 12/14 (only 5 5"ish) and have a double chin! But angles can make all the difference.
Very chinny (also funny face making): [link]
Not so chinny:
Connie Neil - Dec 13, 2010 11:42:00 am PST #10920 of 30000
brillig
I'm 5'2" and a double-digit size that begins with 2 (Look! Pyramids!), and I've got the plethora of chins. I've also got some nice cheekbones, which helps.
WindSparrow - Dec 13, 2010 11:42:34 am PST #10921 of 30000
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.
lisah, you make a great covergirl!
beth b - Dec 13, 2010 11:43:57 am PST #10922 of 30000
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!
ok I brought out a large dog crate that I had as a possible shelter for the cat. He scrambled up on the fence and gave me an offended mew. So h was just comfortable - not sick.
I'm leaving the shelter out just in case, but it looks good for now