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Spike's Bitches 46: Don't I get a cookie?  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


beekaytee - Dec 12, 2010 4:31:08 pm PST #10817 of 30000
Compassionately intolerant

I just assumed that everyone else always felt run down, borderline exhausted, and creaky, so there was no point fussing about it.

I've certainly done this with other things in my life. When you think about it, unless you had a reason to question your assumptions, why would you?

That is what is amazing about any world (or internal) view, once you get an appreciation of alternatives, it can blow your mind. You mean I don't HAVE to be tired/miserable/etc. all the time? Whoddathunkit!?


beekaytee - Dec 12, 2010 4:31:10 pm PST #10818 of 30000
Compassionately intolerant

DebetEsse - Dec 12, 2010 4:51:43 pm PST #10819 of 30000
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Have you read What Dreams May Come? One of the things that sticks with me most about Hell was the idea that all this stuff is awful or non-functional and the person whose Hell it is just accepts it as the way things are.


Jessica - Dec 12, 2010 4:57:07 pm PST #10820 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Jilli, I'm just going to put this out there and then step away from the conversation - I think you need a second opinion.

This NEJM article sums it up pretty well: [link]


javachik - Dec 12, 2010 5:43:59 pm PST #10821 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

I agree with Jessica. My cousin (slayer) and I knew someone who died from Lyme disease. We're pretty familiar with the disease and what you've described doesn't sound like what Vern went through with the disease (he was military reserves and caught it from a tick when he was in Colorado, iirc).


meara - Dec 12, 2010 6:15:40 pm PST #10822 of 30000

Thanks for the article, Jessica--I've read several things similar, but didn't have a great link.

I am always tired and creaky! But I think it has to do with not sleeping well. Though apparently my mom has fibromyalgia (in addition to both parents having sleep apnea), who knew? I should get them to write down a medical history...but it's already a pain to fill out at the doctor!


smonster - Dec 12, 2010 8:13:09 pm PST #10823 of 30000
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Awake. Itchy and having an anxiety attack, probably from the prednisone. Have taken 3 benedryl and OTC painkillers, have no anti-itch cream in the house. There are spots of poison ivy on my scalp. Frankie chewed open the sock of oatmeal I was using earlier and his farts are epic right now. Am massively cranky about the whole situation. Pronouns gone. Tempted to call in itchy to work. SMONSTER SMASH. Moving to couch in hopes change of sleep venue will help.


beth b - Dec 12, 2010 8:21:29 pm PST #10824 of 30000
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

Do you have any tagament or pepcid in the house? when DH had reaction bed enough to go to the ER they threw those into the mix. they are histamine blockers, not the same as in allergy drugs, but they can help A LOT with itchy skin. Both what the doctor said and from my experience since then.

and switching sleeping venues helps me


beekaytee - Dec 12, 2010 8:22:41 pm PST #10825 of 30000
Compassionately intolerant

Oh smonster, Honey. I am SO sorry you are going through this.

I can say, without reservation, predisone is likely to make you insane. When I took it in September, I did not sleep for a solid week, plus the fear and the hyperlocution and the whole shebang. Give yourself a total break around any thoughts and/or feelings you are having. Make no major decisions and REST.

I wish I had something calming and/or soothing to offer but will at least say a fervent prayer that you get relief soon.


DavidS - Dec 12, 2010 8:25:06 pm PST #10826 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Poor, smonster.

EM got poison ivy several times and her reaction got worse and worse so that even the slightest exposure caused her body to flip out.

I'm a little concerned that repeated exposure to poison ivy will have that effect on you.